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Jon Feign (deliberate typo)
VCAT and Lend Lease inappropriate developments
Victoria's fascist planning laws
"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.
Benito Mussolini"
The reason for the draconian legislation being brought in to 'minimise delays' is that the pace and scale of change is undemocratic and would be successfully resisted if the government of the day were not willing to pass unfair laws to force the electorate to submit to the will of big business. This is classic fascism, no joke. And our judges, lawyers, planners, and VCAT go along with this. Shame on them.
"A substantial proportion of people do what they are told to do, irrespective of the content of the act and without limitations of conscience, so long as they perceive that the command comes from a legitimate authority." Stanley Milgram, 1965."
Code-Assess - a threat to our Suburbs (Victoria Planning)
Wild Conspiracy Theories spun to sell NATO attack on Syria
From Alex Jones' Prison Planet and YouTube:
See also: Syrian Rebels Admit Terrorist Bombing Campaign - Then Deny Actual Bombings of 10 May 12 by Tony Cartalucci on Global Research. The mainstream newsmedia that has refused to present the hard evidence that the September 11 attacks, the 7/7 London Train bombings and Madrid 3/11 train bombings could only be explained by complicity of the Governments of the countries in which those attacks occurred similar to what would have occurred if Operation Northwoods proposal scrapped by JFK had proceeded. The same newsmedia, which has concealed evidence of false flag terror carried out by Western Governments against their own people, has attempted, with no evidence, to depict real terrorist attacks carried out against Syria by proxies of the US and its NATO allies as false flag terrorist attacks carried out by the Syrian government against its own people.
55+ more Syrians killed in yet another terror attack
The video embedded below is from Russia Today (http://rt.com/news):
I could only see the above video on my Windows 7 compute and not my Ubuntu Linux system. Perhaps someone should tell RT to better support open source software and give less preference to proprietary Micro$oft software.- Ed.
See also: Syria bombing: Pictures show horrifying aftermath of Damascus blasts which killed 55, Syria: 70 killed in huge Damascus explosions, Syria mired in blame game over Damascus bombs in the 'left-wing' Guardian.
Mass deaths of dolphins and sea bird in Peru
How to add comments to Metropolitan Planning Strategy web-site?
Subject was: Can't add comments
I registered for the new planning feedback website, and logged in, but can't work out how to actually add to the forum. Has anybody else been successful? There are a few comments already there, some mentioning population.
depressing
Government fire sales have slowed following Qld Elections
It's a shame that apparently no-one thought to stand in any recent state election campaign explicitly opposed to the zombie economists' policy of privatisation. It seems as if Queenslanders' emphatic repudiation of privatisation at the 2012 state elections and the repudiation of privatisation in the 2011 NSW elections has at least helped to cause the Victorian Government to re-think some of its plans to sell-off the few public assets that Kennett hasn't flogged off. In March the Baillieu Government announced that it intended to flog off the Port of Melbourne, but changed its mind anticipating the drubbing that the Queensland Labor Government of Anna Bligh was about to face on 28 March as a result of its privatisation policies. Whilst the sell-off of public assets seems to have slowed down, the sale of other Australia assets to foreign interests has gathered steam, including the sale of farmland to Qatar.
The comment above has been adapted from comment I unsuccessfully attempted to post in response to article Zombies reach Australia on to johnquiggin.com. Point 7 of that site's discussion policy (which I hadn't read) states: "Comments with large numbers of links will trigger spam filters and be rejected automatically". So It was deleted. Whilst this is understandable I still think this is unfortunate. The strength of the Internet is for material, particularly material arguing opposed viewpoints to be directly linked or else linked to from a single document, thereby allowing readers to more easily consider the comparative merits of contrary arguments. Solon and JFK would have surely agreed. That is why my articles and comments often contain a number of links. (At least I have been able to post a shorter comment from that page containing a link back to here.)
JFK's apparent opposition to popular Third World struggles
In the spirit of JFK and Solon welcoming controversy, whilst, I agree with JFK's abhorrence of 'Communism' as practised in the Soviet Union and the Eastern bloc under Stalin, I would question the way JFK describes popular struggles in the third world at the time as subversion against democracy. Examples include the Vietnamese resistance to brutal French colonial rule and the United States, the Cuban revolution and political struggles in Latin America inspired by the Cuban revolution. As the leaders of those struggles had direct experience of brutal colonial rule and meddling in their political affairs by the likes of he US, they tended to look favorably from a distance on the same word political forces that Kennedy rightly abhorred.
An example was Fidel Castro, who proudly wore the label 'Communist'. JFK had conflict with Castro during his Presidency (although this conflict was moving towards reconciliation at the time of JFK's murder). For all his flaws, Castro, now retired as President of Cuba and now a contributor to Global Research has been clearly a force for immense good in the world, a most striking example being his getting Cuba to successfully handle the sudden drop of oil imports from the USSR in the 1990's and setting an example for the rest of the world to follow.
Sealife under threat in West Australia
Dear Friends of Wildlife on land in the ocean
I urge all of you to please write the very brief message to Tony Burke (Tony.Burke.MP[ AT ]aph.gov.au www.tonyburke.com.au/get-in-touch/) asking him to protect ocean sea life from killer pollutants
Maryland Wilson
President of Australian Wildlife Protection Council.
This page of comments has been disabled. Please add further comments here. - Ed, 5 May
Disinformation amidst an otherwise mostly commendable speech
An example of a lie in the midst of words that I largely agree with are the following words taken from Professor Noam Chomsky's speech upon acceptance of the 2011 Sydney Peace Prize:
Right now happens to be the 50th anniversary of President Kennedy’s decision to escalate the conflict in South Vietnam from vicious repression, which had already killed tens of thousands of people and finally elicited a reaction that the client regime in Saigon could not control, to outright US invasion: bombing by the US Air Force, use of napalm, chemical warfare soon including crop destruction to deprive the resistance of food, and programs to send millions of South Vietnamese to virtual concentration camps where they could be “protected” from the guerrillas who, admittedly, they were supporting.[1] Taken from a 107 KB PDF file linked to from here.
Chomsky cannot be unaware that President Kennedy planned to end the Vietnam war after his re-election in 1964. This is thoroughly documented in "JFK and the Unspeakable - Why he died and why it matters" of 2008 by James Douglass. What Chomsky has done is to take a few public words and actions by Kennedy without regard to the difficult position that Kennedy found himself in and what he is known to have said to trusted confidantes.
I said as much on an ABC web page but the comment was not published.
It could possibly have been argued by the censoring ABC moderator that Kennedy's intentions towards Vietnam were not the 'focus' of what Chomsky was discussing or the 'relevant' topic. Nevertheless, the lie that Chomsky is promoting harmed America and the world in the 1960's and continues to to this day just as than another lie in 1996 gravely harmed Australia and the rest of the world.
In the 1960's the lie that Kennedy was a warmonger and a glove puppet of corporations and no better than any other US President was used by the phony left to help the Warren Commission cover up the conspiracy to murder JFK as the invisible US government was preparing to also murder JFK's brother, Robert and Martin Luther King.
In 1996, the lie of the Port Arthur massacre helped the newly elected Prime Minister John Howard to consolidate his power and so be able to mis-rule this country for 11 more long years. In that time John Howard, savagely cut spending, conspired to use mercenary strikebreakers break the Maritime Union of Australia in 1998, introduced the "never ever" Goods and Services Tax (GST), sent Australians to fight and die in Afghanistan on the pretext of on the lie of 9/11, sent Australians to fight in the illegal 2003 invasion of Iraq on the pretext of the WMD lie, privatised Telstra, further emasculated services to the unemployed, imposed high immigration, introduced "Work Choices" with no electoral mandate whatsoever, etc.
Footnotes
[1] Striking omissions from a supposed anti-war campaigner's talk in November 2011 were Libya after that country had been devastated and invaded by NATO forces and Syria which was then and still is suffering from a NATO sponsored terrorist insurgency.
Gratitude largely lost for this "Asian Century"
Should 'good' developers go free?
Developers should be jailed
Outrage over Anna Bay land clearing near Port Stephens, NSW
From Outrage over Anna Bay land clearing of 1 May on the ABC:
A Port Stephens community group is outraged that bulldozers have already moved into a coastal bushland site earmarked for housing at Anna Bay, before the project has been approved.
The Anna Bay Community Action Group says the developer, Landcom, has cleared large tracks of land through the 22-hectare site, which contains important koala habitat.
Group spokesman John McCauley says he is disgusted that endangered coastal vegetation has been destroyed.
"A very large section of it is what has been gazetted as an ecologically endangered community," he said.
"And it seems arrogance from this developer that they can come in unannounced without the proper consent and permissions and bulldoze this site.
"The bulldozers have actually gone right through it." ...
See also: Council to investigate claims of environmental vandalism in Anna Bay of 3 May by Matt Carr in the Newcastle Herald.
How do Australia's 2012 rulers differ from the Vichy French?
The following comment from the page linked to by NIMBY, puts it very well:
One wonders what the ANZACS suffered and fought for against Japan's attempted invasion during World War 2. Now, a foreign invader, an "investor", just has to have enough cash to buy up large swathes of land, and they have access to Australia's sovereignty and future. No warfare, no diplomatic debates, no weapons, no frontlines. Japan's invaders or any other foreign nation, if they came now with enough cash, could simply buy our farmland, businesses, property and even water. Globalization is wiping out Australia's patriotism. Australia is being chopped up into pieces for for the best offer. Australians wouldn't be able to buy in the same countries. Australia is FOR SALE on the international market.
Posted by: Pepe of Heidelberg Vic 7:39pm Wednesday
Those who have run Australia since the late 1970's could be likened to the rulers of France who made peace with Nazi Germany in 1940. In return for being allowed to rule the southern-western half of France from the town of Vichy and to retain control of France's colonies, the Vichy French government allowed Nazi Germany to conduct its war against the UK and America from the north-eastern part of France unhindered. That part of France included the Atlantic shore, from which, until 1944, U-boats, which almost prevented necessary supplies from reaching England by sea, were launched. More French soldiers killed and died fighting against the Allies, including Australia, in Syria, North Africa, Madagascar and elsewhere than did fighting against Nazi Germany.
Judging from what we are now witnessing in 2102, had the Japanese landed on Australia's shores in 1942, almost certainly a sizable section of Australia's ruling elite would have chosen to make deals with Japanese not dissimilar to the deals Vichy France made with Germany.
For preventing any chance of that eventuating, we owe an enormous debt of gratitude to the ANZACs and their American allies who stopped the Japanese in New Guinea, the Solomons and the Coral Sea and to the then Labor government of Labor Prime Minister John Curtin.
New koala status delaying the inevitable only
Poll: Queensland koalas vs developers
Support for 'Info sought re sadistic culprits roo mutilation'
More farmland in foreign hands - Qatar
Qatar-based Hassad Foods, which is the agricultural arm of the Qatar government, recently agreed to pay about $35 million for more than 8000 hectares of sheep-grazing and cropping land in Victoria's Western District. As well as prized Kaladbro Estate in Western Victoria and Queensland’s Clover Downs, Hassad’s burgeoning portfolio also includes 6800 hectares of sheep grazing land in Canowindra in New South Wales.
An additional HUGE chunk of Victorian farmland - about 11 times the size of Melbourne's CBD - has also controversially fallen into foreign hands.
Qatar-owned Hassad Australia finalised its purchase last week of 10 properties at Telopea Downs, on the border of Victoria and South Australia.
See More farmland in foreign hands of 2 May by Terry Sim.
A report released by the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and Sciences in January found 11 per cent of farmland, 9 per cent of water entitlements and 1 per cent of agricultural businesses were owned by foreign interests.
Australia is the driest continent with irregular weather and is subject to natural disasters such as droughts and fires. We also have little more than 6% arable land, threatened by urban sprawl. At same time, our mining wealth is largely be consumed by the "nation building" infrastructure for our swelling population instead of being invested into the future.
With shallow policies and grotesque short-termism from Canberra, the public should be very concerned about any more land being sold to foreign countries. Our sovereignty is under threat by stealth. We must end the deadlock of the mainstream Political parties and focus on Australia's food security and future as a nation.
Qatar, an arid country of some 1.8 million inhabitants jutting off Saudi Arabia into the Gulf, can only produce about 10% of its food needs and is desperately reliant on imports. Currently, only 1.6 % of Qatar is arable land and agriculture only contributes 0.1% to gross national product, according to the FAO.
Qatar’s population has more than doubled from around 614,000 in 2000 to 1.699 million at the end of 2010. Qatar's oil and natural gas industries account for 50 percent of GDP, 85 percent of export earnings and 70 percent of the government's revenue.
As well as food security, air, water, and land pollution are also significant environmental issues in Qatar. In addition to smog and acid rain, the nation has been affected by the air pollution generated during the Persian Gulf War. Pollution from the oil industry poses a threat to the nation's water.
There's nothing sustainable about Qatar's environmental/population growth record, so why should they bother with any such issues in Australia?
'Pontificating and conspiracy theorising'
Tigerquoll wrote:
Otherwise, debating a court decision is all pontificating and conspiracy theorising.
You are aware, of course that trial jury in America found in 1999 that Martin Luther King had been killed in 1968 as a result a conspiracy involving the US Army and police, aren't you?
Labeling a view contrary to the official view a 'conspiracy theory' but not explaining the evidence presented hardly disproves that alternative viewpoint.
So, why not address the facts in my article or, if not, admit that your claim as well as the Judge's ruling you linked to is not based on the evidence?
I would also be interested to know what discussion on candobetter or indeed any discussion forum you consider not to be 'pontification'.
Issue is one of social deviance
James,
The issue raised by Barrie above is one of social deviance. That is the focus.
Your side question above asking for proof of evidence is:
1. I quoted from a news source (follow source link included)
2. Port Arthur evidence is as per the court case - R v Martin Bryant, Cox CJ 22 November 1996
If anyone disagrees with the finding of a court case, in Australia it is a matter of lodging an appeal in the Court of Criminal Appeal, or else accept the verdict.
Otherwise, debating a court decision is all pontificating and conspiracy theorising. Free country and books are written on such.
Tigerquoll
Suggan Buggan
Snowy River Region
Victoria
Australia
Where is the evidence that Bryant murdered 35 at Port Arthur?
Tigerquoll wrote:
Martin Bryant, who killed 35 people in the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, tortured animals as a child.
He also claimed he'd had sex with a horse, according to a former girlfriend.
The second claim hardly bares repeating on a site like candobetter. What 'former girlfriend'? Are you referring to that mysterious woman (her name escapes me now) who befriended Martin shortly before the massacre and who has vanished from public view since?
As for the claim that Martyn Bryant "tortured animals as a child", could you be more specific? I know in my own confused
childhood, on at least one occasion I inflicted cruelty to other creatures.[1] As far as I am aware I was still able to turn out a caring and humane adult in spite of that. I am sure that any child with Martyn's low IQ would also have been capable of performing all kinds of foolish acts, some of which may well have harmed other creatures.
I think you should read my article Was Martin Bryant the Port Arthur killer? of 3 April 2010 and look at the linked articles, particularly that three part article by Carl Wernerhoff. My own article has so far attracted four favourable comments from other contributors visitors and not one critical of it.
Why not show me where I am wrong in a comment in response to that article?
Foonotes
[1] On a number of occasions, when I think I was aged 8 or 9 I think, I ran after hapless swarms of soldier crabs throwing sand balls down on them on the mudflats of Redland Bay to the north of Brisbane (although I was careful not to tread on them as others deliberately did).
Animal cruelty is how Martin Bryant started out
Animal cruelty is how Tasmanian mass murderer Martin Bryant and NSW backpacker mass murderer Ivan Milat started out, respectively torturing animals as children.
Sounds like Bendigo has a budding psychopath.
Read more:
1. Animal abuse inculcates social deviance
2. Cruelty against animals is no minor misdemeanour by Kylie Lang, The Sunday Mail (Qld), April 03, 2011,
...'Excuses, excuses. It's time magistrates dismissed the feeble explanations for deliberate acts of animal cruelty and got tough on torturers.
You can't tell me that a father and son dragging a pony behind their car was an accident, as the court heard last month.
Or that Andrew Cook, 33, and his son Zachary, 17, believed that tethering the pony to the sedan and making it gallop behind the speeding vehicle was an acceptable way to transport the animal.
I don't buy the Dumb and Dumber defence, and neither should anyone else.
In recent weeks, we've had a children's pet cat drowned in a wheelie bin by an elderly neighbour who was sleep deprived and an ibis fatally stomped on by a law student because it startled him while he was eating lunch in a park.
The imbecile who took a video of himself driving down the emergency lane of a busy highway with his pet parrot clinging to the windscreen wiper is clearly no Rhodes scholar, but when he comes before the judiciary, as indeed he must, for tormenting this bird, he should be disciplined properly.
The public is sick of sadists receiving slaps on the wrist. Cruelty against animals is no minor misdemeanour.
The RSPCA knows it, the police service knows it, and the State Government knows it last month it announced a new serious animal cruelty offence, increasing the maximum jail sentence from the current two years to seven.
Premier Anna Bligh might win public admiration (read votes) by responding to justified community outrage, but tougher jail sentences won't fix the problem.
It's not because, as experience has shown, magistrates will refuse to impose the full seven years (they've never given the two years we have now).
And it's not because police, who will effectively take over from the RSPCA in apprehending these social menaces, already have their hands full or, as the RSCPA has suggested, are more concerned with collecting unpaid traffic fines than curbing animal cruelty.
The fundamental reason that more jail time won't work is that prison is no place for rehabilitation.
As with bullies on our roads, which I wrote about last week, tossing them in jail only fills their damaged brains with other ideas on how to be anti-social.
Perpetrators of animal cruelty certainly don't need any prompting to take the next step and mete out their aggression on humans. A litany of research shows that people who hurt animals exhibit the same psychopathic personality disorders as serial rapists and murderers.
Martin Bryant, who killed 35 people in the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, tortured animals as a child.
He also claimed he'd had sex with a horse, according to a former girlfriend.
Remember Jeffrey Dahmer, the American serial killer who raped, tortured and dismembered 17 men and boys between 1978 and 1991?
As a boy, he dissected dead animals at home and once put a dog's head on a stake.
As an adult, he put human heads in the fridge.
The RSPCA's affiliate in the US has a website specifically for children.
ASPCA Kids explains why people hurt animals this way: "These people have serious, psychological problems that will probably not go away on their own.
They often need the help of licensed professionals, such as a psychologist.
"We are not 100 per cent sure why people become like this most are probably born with their problems, but others can get their problems from brain damage, poisonous environments, or by being treated badly themselves."
Hard to think of a more poisonous environment than prison, except maybe a family circle defined by aggression, cruelty and fear.
Children who abuse animals have often seen it done by a parent (typically their father) or have been physically abused themselves. The bullied becomes the bully.
In the case of the pony, its abusers were ordered to pay vet bills of $7642.
The father, a role model of positive parenting if ever there was one, was sentenced to three months' jail wholly suspended for three years, while the son received two years' probation. No convictions were recorded. They walked free, a little poorer but not noticeably wiser. Where's the mandatory counselling? Where's the enforced stint in a psychiatric institution to teach these people how to act humanely?
This is how our government and our justice system can effect positive change and build a safer society for all by addressing the root of the problem, which is psychological.
Animal cruelty is no accident. As parents, we might bear this in mind if we see our kids pulling tails off lizards or playing backyard cricket using cane toads as cricket balls.'
Tigerquoll
Suggan Buggan
Snowy River Region
Victoria
Australia
Bendigo- Info sought re sadistic culprits roo mutilation
Premier Newman no better than Anna Bligh
I stumbled across this
SANTOS Slaughtering Koalas
The Pilliga Forest in northern New South Wales is critical surviving habitat for the now "vulnerable" Koala species.
Numbers less than 20 years ago were 10,000 in the Pilliga. Last count they were just 1000.
Why?
Coal Seam Gas and its koala habitat destruction.
Who is behind it?
SANTOS
Santos Centre
60 Flinders Street
Adelaide
Read about Koalas' Pilliga Plight: 'THREE-QUARTERS OF KOALA POPULATION WIPED OUT'
Want to stop Koala killing?
STOP SANTOS!
This is the current Board of Directors:
Peter Roland Coates
David John Wissler Knox
Kenneth Charles Borda
Kenneth Alfred Dean
Roy Alexander Franklin
Richard Michael Harding
Gregory John Walton Martin
Jane Sharman Hemstritch
Andrew Seaton
James Baulderstone
Peter Cleary
Petrina Coventry
Trevor Brown
Diana Hoff
John Anderson
Martyn Eames
Mark Macfarlane
Christian Paech
David Lim
..Sik Em!
“Koalas must be included on the national threatened species list- especially in NSW’s Gunnedah region and the Pilliga Forest where they face the additional threat of expanding coal mining and coal seam gas operations..."
Tigerquoll
Suggan Buggan
Snowy River Region
Victoria
Australia
Wildlife rescue
2 wildlife rescue and rehabilitation organisations in Melbourne covering the bay area from Brighton to Mornington Peninsula are Animalia 0435 822699 and AWARE 0412 433727.
Thanks, Jenny. I've added the numbers you have provided to the list above. - Ed
Vulnerable status for koalas
Marc Morano lacks credibility
Marc Morano is not a reliable or unbiased source of information for debate. He is the executive editor and chief correspondent for the award-winning Climate Depot, a global warming and eco-news center founded in 2009. Morano was named one of only five 'criminals against humanity, against planet Earth itself' in 2009 by the eco-magazine Grist. (Link to http://grist.org/article/Roy-Spencer-Inhofe-650-is-bogus/ found with Google broken, but here are two others which mention him. - Ed)
In December 2009. Newsweek called Climate Depot the "most popular denial site."
He is an anti- global warming campaigner whose denial of any sea-level rise were demolished by Rear Admiral David Titley, the chief oceanographer of the US Navy. Former senator Nick Minchin is also well known for his rejection of climate science and for opposing the medical fact that second-hand tobacco smoke is a health risk. Marc Morano is another "expert" on Minchin's side. He was the former communications director for a US senator who received more money from fossil fuel interests than any other senator. He has no relevant scientific training or any peer-reviewed publications.
As such, he has no credibility on population issues, or attacking Malthus or Paul Ehrlich.
Ten countries worldwide, including five African nations, are at 'extreme risk' because of limited access to clean, fresh water, according to a new global water security index. And the effects of climate change and population growth will exacerbate the stress on these water supplies, potentially threatening stability in many regions, according to the analysis by Maplecroft , a UK- based consulting group.
The planet is facing two "worlds" colliding - with climate change and an era of depletions together with record, exponential population growth.
Why not post this, or an adapted version, to corbettreport.com and let us know how James Corbett responds?- Ed
Broader history silences upholder of given historical truth?
One historical leader, whom few have not felt free to condemn without fear of reproach for nearly a century now, is Vladimir Lenin, leader of the Russian Revolution of 1917 who is blamed by established world 'public opinion' for having made possible the horrific crimes committed by his successor, Stalin.
In response to yet another effort to drag Lenin's name through the mud, I made a post (see also below), which presented evidence that Lenin had attempted to remove Stalin from his post of General Secretary of the Communist Party of Soviet Union as he lay in bed mortally ill in 1923 and compared the harsh measures, used by Lenin to keep his government in power during the Russian Civil War of 1918-1921, with the horrific violence that his international opponents as well as domestic opponents caused following Lenin's death throughout the rest of the twentieth century, and the start of the twenty-first century, including amongst other events, the Second World War in which as many as 70 million may have died.
So far, I been met with silence. The person to whom I responded to has ignored my post and instead briefly engaged in a debate over Japan's objection to Australia's White Australia Policy following the First World War on the same page. No-one else has responded to my heresy.
This is not to say that Lenin was without flaws and did not make mistakes -- In my view, signing the Brest-Litovsk Treaty[1] with Germany in 1918 was one. -- but when presented with evidence of the good that he did and tried to accomplish and a comparison of the violence that Lenin was himself responsible for while he was alive with the vastly greater scale for killing that followed his death, including by 'democratic' anti-communists as well as fascists and Stalinist 'communists', I am met with silence.
Lenin's record within the broader historical context
This is a corrected and slightly expanded version of the post referred to above.
Alan wrote:
Those Trostkyists tend to promote a good Lenin, evil Stalin theory of history that ignores Lenin’s own conduct as head of the Soviet government.
At least acknowledge that as as Lenin lay in bed mortally ill in 1923, he instructed Trotsky to remove Stalin from the post of General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. This is substantiated in many works including “Lenin’s Last Struggle” of 1968 by Moshe Lewin and “The Prophet Armed” of 1954 by Isaac Deutscher, the first of his three volume trilogy on the life of Leon Trotsky. Had Trotsky acted on Lenin’s instructions instead of largely sitting on his hands until 1927 (also documented by Deutscher) history would have turned out very differently.
Horrific world-wide death toll in the century following Lenin's death
Much of the terrible destruction and bloodshed that occurred through the remainder of the 20th century and the early 21st century:
Purges of both left and right wing opponents of Stalin, forced collectivisation, the bloody defeat of Chinese Communism in 1927, Nazi triumph in Germany in 1933, the triumph of Franco in Spain, the Second World War in which possibly as many as 70 million may have died, The Korean War in which 3 million North Koreans died, The Vietnam War in which as many as 5 million may have died, the murder of half a million communists by Suharto in 1965, the invasion of East Timor, the invasion of Yugoslavia, the invasions of Iraq in 1991 which may have killed as many as 2 million, the invasion on Libya in 2011, …
… may have been avoided.
As others pointed out, Lenin was faced with a savage civil war and an invasion by the troops over ten foreign nations, including Australia.
So is it fair to damn Lenin for having resorted to harsh measures to keep his government in power, especially given what his opponents, many professing to be for democracy, both outside the Soviet Union and within, have ‘achieved’ since his death and while he lived if we count the First World War?
Personally I think Marxism is a flawed philosophy (see Robert Heilbroner’s “The Worldly Philosophers” of 1953), but in spite of that I think the Russian Revolution of 1917 presented humanity with its best opportunity to date to establish a workable and humane global society.
Sadly, that opportunity was lost.
Footnotes
[1] Leon Trotsky initially opposed the signing of the treaty but later, wrongly in my view, concurred with Lenin's view and strongly defended Lenin's decision. See "The Prophet Armed" by Isaac Deutscher, referred to above.
James Corbett claims population growth not a threat
I have just listened to a broadcast from the Corbett Report (mp3 file, 11 Mb) in which James Corbett and his invited guest, Marc Morano, claim to have resoundingly refuted the arguments put by Paul Ehrlich and others against population growth. An indication of the tone of the discussion can be gained by what has been written on the broadcast page:
Overpopulation fearmonger Paul Ehrlich is back on the press junket trying to drum up panic in the name of his depopulation obsession. Tonight on the program we listen to a 2010 interview with Marc Morano of ClimateDepot.com refuting Ehrlich and his sky-is-falling pseudoscience.
I will soon post to James Corbett from his contact page, the letter included below:
Why was world human population less than
200 million for nearly all of its history?
Dear James Corbett,
I have admired your reporting against the profiteers and war-makers of the 21st century. I particularly liked your interview with Ellen Brown on Public Banking and have embedded it at http://candobetter.net/node/2861 .
That made me all the more troubled when I listened to your interview with Marc Morano purportedly debunking Paul Ehrlich and other population control advocates. I would have found that interview laughable if the ideas you put were not so harmful.
Just look at the graph at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_curve.svg and ask yourself:
What kept human population numbers well below 100 million for 90% of the history of intelligent human life?
What caused human population numbers to rocket up from 500 million to 7 billion, that is 14-fold in only 400 years?
The answer is the massive increase in the use of humankind's finite bounty of fossil fuel. This has allowed us to artificially expand agricultural production to feed many more people than was previously possible.
So what happens when fossil fuels run out as they must in 300 years more at the very most!
I ask either you or Marc Morano to name one agricultural scientist who knows how we can hope to make our soil sufficiently more productive than it was for more than 90% of human history to enable it to feed more than a fraction of the world's current population of 7 billion, without fossil-fuel based fertilisers?
I could name a number of people, including population sociologists, who could, with little effort, shoot down in flames all that was claimed by yourself and Marc Morano. I could do it myself.
So, why not prove me wrong to your audience by asking a population stability advocate onto your program to debate you and Marco Morano?
I have already posted this letter, together with a link to your broadcast to http://candobetter.net/node/2854#comment-8251 . (With your permission I would like to also put a copy of the mp3 file there so that our visitors can still find it on our page after that broadcast is no longer current on your web-site.) We expect responses which are also critical of your broadcast from our site's visitors. Of course, feel free to post your own comments to show us all where we are wrong. Also, please feel welcome to ask Marc Morano or any of your audience to do the same.
Yours sincerely,
James Sinnamon
Australia
Economic neoliberalism has no electoral mandate in Australia
This originated as a response to Classical economics and recession in many countries (wonkish)
My principle objection to neo-liberal economic dogma is that it has been used to take away from sovereign communities, at the local level, state and federal level, what should have been their democratic right: to own land and wealth-creating enterprises and to provide services to their members.
In 1983 the Federal Treasurer Paul Keating began to explicitly impose neoliberalism on this country without any electoral mandate whatsoever when he decided to remove the Government's right to set the exchange rate of the Australian dollar. In 1995 this was formally codified in the "National Competition Policy" written by Keating's hand-picked neoliberal "free market"[1] ideologue Professor Fred Hilmer, just in time for it to be used by Keating's successor Prime Minister John Howard as his own justification for the further cutting of services and further privatastion.
This policy was supported on both sides of parliament and so was never put to the public to decide either in Parliamentary elections nor in a referendum.
All the polls taken on privatisation, one of the principle components of the "National Competition Policy", show overwhelming opposition to privatisation comprising the order of more than two thirds of voters at the very least yet in this supposed democracy "of the people by the people for the people" governments continue to impose privatisation against popular will, the most infamous example being former Premier Anna Bligh's imposition of the fire sale in 2009 after an election in which she refused to answer a question I put to her even before the 2009 elections were called as to whether she had plans to continue with former Premier Peter Beattie's track record of privatisation.
As a consequence, her Government has suffered the (worst(?)) state electoral defeat in Australia's history holding on to only 7 seats. Treasurer Andrew Fraser who I stood against in 2009 also lost his seat.
Footnotes
[1] How can a neo-liberal market economy be 'free' if elected governments aren't free to participate in the economy in whatever ways their constituents wish them to?
My apology to Professor Quiggin for censorship implication
It has been pointed out to me that what I had written in my previous post could be taken as an unjust implication that Professor John Quiggin deliberately delays posts which challenge his views until such time as they are no longer likely to be read by others. In fact there was a perfectly innocent explanation of why some of the posts I had submitted had their approval publication had been delayed. It is reproduced below in an explanation provided by another contributor:
Anything at all with two hyperlinks goes to moderation. For the purpose of this calculation, a link to a prior post counts as one. This process takes no account of the content of the post and is automatically generated to preclude link spam.
Having read your contributions at “Candobetter” there is no reason that I can see why PrQ would have moderated. Occasionally, when he does, he makes this explicit and gives a reason.
I appreciate that it’s annoying when something goes into the mod bin. It happens to me occasionally. The other day my use of the word “g@mbling” {replace symbol with “a”} did it.
It’s regrettable that you’ve implied that he is engaged in some sort of political censorship. You should apologise and amend your comment, IMO.
As has been rightly asked above I do apologise to Professor Quiggin, who has shown himself to an exemplary upholder of free speech and informed critical thought on his web-site.
Incompetent winger - candobetter
Actually those with a reasonable IQ have worked out the reason for moderation messages at johnquiggin.com.
It is a feature of anti-spam rules, and as noted at johnquiggin there is a simple workaround.
To rant and rail over some censorship is just blogging stupidity.
You need to apologise.
DSE caused two koalas death by burn-offs - more in shelters
Lone koala stranded for days on a pole
Melbourne town planning is a concrete refugee camp
Melbourne town planning has become a concrete refugee camp.
As the Feds spew the hoards into Tulla, the locals are forced to make room for them.
These Refugees for the Good Life get a better deal than Melbourne's inner city homeless.
Whitlam's multicultural ghettos are infecting the city all over.
'Southern Dar es Salaam' or 'Southern Chongqing' may be better names for the old Melbourne locals once knew.
John Marlowe
How does moderation and delayed approval differ from censorship?
On johnquiggin.com I have yet again found that my comments have been selectively subject to moderation, and their publication delayed long enough to prevent them from being linked to in the "recent comments" section at the top right hand side of the web page. So when Professor John Quiggin eventually approves their publication, very few visitors to his site are likely to get to read my posts. (See below, for apology by James Sinnamon for what could have been taken as an implication that Professor John Quiggin intentionally delays the posting of comments by some visitors to his site. - Ed)
Here are previous two posts which were subject to moderation. The first still hasn't been published by now at 7:27PM even though it was posted at 12:14 pm, over 7 hours ago:
How millions of lives were needlessly lost in the First and Second World Wars
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
The truce of Christmas 1914 and the subsequent mutinies on both sides of no-man’s land after that is ample evidence that most soldiers on the ground did not want to fight and that the war was needlessly prolonged to serve the callous needs of the ruling elites in the countries conducting that war.
Whilst I consider much of the fighting of the Allied forces against Nazi Germany to have been necessary in the Second World War, that war should have ended no later than 1943 and was also prolonged needlessly resulting in the deaths of many millions more.
Evidence of this is to be found in “Trading with the Enemy” by Charles Higham. (Before I recently learned of Charles Higham’s book) I wrote of this in the article “Need 60 million have died to rid the world of Hitler?” adapted from a comment in response to a review of Max Hastings’ “All Hell Let Loose” in the UK Independent.
How Public Banking could end all our financial and monetary crises
Ikonoclast, I think you will find the interview of Ellen Brown from the US Public Banking Interest by James Corbett of last November most interesting. It contains a lot of interesting research into the early history of Banking in Australia in the late 19th Century and early 20th century by Ellen Brown. It can be found here on Global Research TV and is also embedded in the web-site I contribute to linked to above.
Professor Quiggin, It seems to me that the easiest solution to the monetary and finance crises we face is the re-establishment of proper Public Banking as advocated by the US Public Banking Institute. Can you see any flaws in their argument? (End of second contribution)
At Candobetter, we never censor any submitted posts, except for those which are plainly illegal or defamatory. Unlike the administrators of some other sites, we agree with the late President JFK and the ancient Athenian legislator Solon who both said that avoiding controversy should be considered a crime.
We are confident that all the claims made on this site can be defended with logic and evidence as past experience has shown.
Update: 8:30PM The brief comment linking back to this comment seems not to have been moderated!? However, the first comment shown above is still 'awaiting moderation'. - Ed (This has all been explained in the comment below, mentioned above in the first paragraph, - Ed)
Rural-Urban Arab Migration and Agricultural Destabilisation
This is taken from the Global Research article Economic Analysis: Neoliberalism in the Arab World, Rural-Urban Migration and the Destabilisation of Agriculture of 25 April by Professor Ali Kidri.
Between 1980 and 2010 the share of the rural to total population in the Arab world dropped significantly from about 60 percent to around 40 percent. In absolute terms, an estimated seventy million people left the countryside to urban centres at home.[1] This conservative estimate is nearly equivalent to the total number of rural-urban migrants since the beginning of the twentieth century until 1980. While this exodus was occurring, the regional rate of unemployment was rising and the share of labour in the form of wages fell to around a quarter of national income.[3] By 2007, the Arab League declared that more than half the Arab population was living at less than the two-dollar per day benchmark.[4] Basic food production was decreasing and food imports were rising in this high per capita food dependent and scarcest-water area globally. Around half the population in the Arab world was spending more than half of its income on purchasing food.[5]
Footnotes
[1] Summary of essay presented to workshop on ‘Agriculture & Food Production in the Shadow of the Arab Oil Economy,’ Amman, Jordan, 28 Jan., 2012
[2] These are very conservative estimates based on fixed coefficients of population growth and rates of rural-urban migration. These estimates do not include migration outside the Arab world. A middle range estimate would put this figure at around one hundred million. The rationale for my calculation has to do with the constancy of certain rural population characteristics. ‘In most Arab countries, there has been little change in rural fertility in the past and the prospects of its appreciable drop in the next 10 years are remote; despite a fall in infant mortality rates in rural areas, life expectancy is not projected to increase significantly in most rural populations of the region, and major declines in both fertility and mortality in Arab countries have been largely limited to urban areas; and in the absence of reliable data, the best and perhaps the safest course for making rural population projections by age is to assume a constant rural population age structure for the period 1980-2015.’ The Demographic profile of Arab Countries Ageing Rural Population, United Nations, 2008.(2 missing from text - GT.)
[3] KILM, ILO, various years.
[4] Unified Arab Report, League of Arab States, 2007.
[5] http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2011/05/27/000001843_20110601143246/Rendered/PDF/P126506000AWIFS000PID000Concept0Stage.pdf
France's right win by Marie Le Pen
Australia guilty of poaching medical staff ABC report
Over a quarter of Australia's medical staff are overseas-trained but is that proving detrimental to the developing countries some come from.
The head-hunting of foreign doctors has left some impoverished nations desperately short of medical personnel and Australia stands accused of having blood on its hands. Gelukspan Hospital in South Africa was built by Christian missionaries, but it's a dangerous shortage of medical personnel. There should be 11 doctors here, not two. The magnanimous generosity of past generations, and support for missionaries, has turned into a predatory stealing of the best and brightest medical graduates for our own benefit. It's a saving of costs in training, to the detriment of the sourcing countries. Across Africa, the continent is bleeding doctors faster than it can train them.
There are some African countries where there are only 60 or 70 medical practitioners in the whole country and more than half of them are working overseas. It's a question of morality overtaken by economic interests, just like the live cattle and sheep export trade.
No-one is arguing about the rights of doctors to decide where to work, but if doctors are trained a the expense of their nation of birth, they should be obliged to work in their own country for a minimal number of years before they can be lured away to Australia or other developed country.
Gavin Mooney, Health economists says its the fact that a rich country like Australia is at the moment dependent on taking, poaching, stealing - whatever word you want to use - doctors from sub-Saharan Africa, from South Africa is unethical.
According to South African Dr Bushy Bella, "You see, the state spends money, about six million - about half a million to subsidise you through schooling, and then somebody takes you. It's a loss. It's a loss on investment. So basically, we are just being robbed. And we get nothing in return".
Doctors need to be bonded to stay in their country some 10 years, or Australia should send and replace the lost doctors with our own trained ones. As a first world country, Australia should be at the fore-front in medical training and expertise and by sending out doctors, nurses and educators to the developing world, not poaching them here!
Australia stands accused of poaching African doctors ABC
Since 1959, Cuba has invested heavily in health care and now has twice as many physicians per capita as the United States and health indicators on a par with those in the most developed nations - despite the U.S. embargo that severely reduces the availability of medications and medical technology. Since 1998, 7150 Cuban doctors have worked in 27 countries - on a proportional basis this is the equivalent of the United States sending 175,000 physicians abroad.
Cuba has the highest doctor-to-population ratio in the world. Cuba has over 80,000 doctors, and has sent more than 30,000 Cuban doctors to work abroad, in 40 countries around the world, such as Haiti, Venezuela, and Zimbabwe. Australia is more concerned about using universities as businesses, as economic resources, by importing foreign money through international students!
Are we entering the dumbed down cheap century?
Are we entering the dumbed down cheap century?
I am waiting for quality innovative products to appear on Australian shelves from the Asian century.
I would prefer quality innovative products to appear on Australian shelves from local Australian manufacturers.
'Made in Australia' has so much more a feel good ring to it than 'fully imported' - except if you vote Labor.
And where is Gillard today? In Singapore enticing Singaporian foreign investment, Singaporian immigrants, and Singaporian imports, while offering Australia's military will train Singaporian troops.
Gillard has Rudd disease: treason.
John Marlowe
urban planners
The Melbourne population is increasing everyday and more housing demand is also increasing. Australia's rapid population growth had placed considerable strain on existing health infrastructure, services, with citizens of bigger cities suffering from more pollution, longer commuting times etc.
Editorial comment: Link to CSQ Town Planning removed. In spite of the apparent praise for candobetter, this is clearly advertising for a company that promotes urban 'growth ' and was posted by a forum spammer. - Ed, 12 Aug 2014
Fracking protest turns nasty
What will people think in 200 years of Asian 'tiger' economies?
Compared with Australia, which allowed is manufacturing base to be destroyed by Whitlam[1] , Keating and Howard, amongst others, China and other Asian economies can appear to be a long way ahead. While Australia turns itself into a big hole in the ground, the Asian countries use what we dig up from that hole to produce all sorts of seemingly marvelous and innovative devices for their own use and to export back here.
However, if we take a long term view of history, remembering that humankind, smart enough to burn fossil fuel had it chosen to, has existed on Earth for more that 25,000 years, John Marlowe is spot on about those economies.
Most of what is made in China, ends up in land fill in a matter of two years and little of what is left remains in use after 10 years, whilst the skies, oceans and land will have become saturated with pollution as a consequence. If we move forward a century or two, the net effect of manufacturing by the Asian 'tigers' will have been to transform the earth's non-renewable bounty of fossil fuels and metals into worthless landfill.
Whilst the Asian 'tiger' economies may seem impressive to some in these times, those who will inhabit the earth, two centuries from now, and their descendants, are hardly likely to concur.
Footnotes
[1] The Labor Government of Prime Minister Edward Gough Whitlam which governed from 1972 until 1975 showed vision and leadership and puts to shame the corporate glove puppets by which we have been governed since then. Its removal in 1975 by Malcolm Fraser, John Kerr and the CIA remains a terrible setback for democracy and Australian national sovereignty. Still, that government exhibited flaws which seem inexplicable in comparison its overall direction. One was Whitlam's removal of tariffs which had protected much of our manufacturing base. Another was Whitlam's collusion with the Indonesian Suharto dictatorship to cover up its invasion of East Timor during his last days in office. Yet another was then Energy Minister Rex Connor's moves to renew Australia's export of Uranium.
Australian economic model splits families up
Only muppets gamble with Israels's Goldman Sachs
Asian growth is all quantitative, with no clue
Limits to growth
Higher cost of living in Australia
Speechless
If they want to further reduce Australian living standards ...
When will the bubble burst?
Factory "farming" coming to our suburbs
My email to Environment Minister Tony Burke re. Koalas
Parallels to the Titanic today
GEtUP - Don't Mine the Tarkine
Anti-development is the only sane attitude
High immigration destroying our land and cities
Koalas near extinction - please write to minister Burke
Land of the fair go?
Religious extremism unAustralian
'Islamophobia', now that is a calculated rhetoric - poor bugger me?, or is the above imposing the buggering?
A more suitable term for 'Australian legitimate concern for imposed orthodox religion' is 'hey, equal rights mate', or 'what have you got against Aussie women?'
Show me an Islamic society that respects women having equal rights to men.
Why should a person with bumps and lumps in some personal areas have more rights to another with bumps and lumps in other areas?
The logic is the same crap as following a green god over a red god, then going to war over god damn colour. Travel Australia outside the nasty cities and learn about the Land and its soul!
I have faith in knowing that the religious will continue to fight wars in the name of their god. How can god be great when followers kill in its name?
Most atheists I have met are fence sitters, who couldn't give a crap about the masses fighting ridiculously over different gods.
Who cares?
May patriarchal and related backward societies and faiths become extinct and free the rest of us from bigotry.
Easter is time to take a break with family. It should be renamed as such.
Religions that prescribe ritual, life rules and righteousness is dogmatic extremism, just like the so-called far-right/far-left, indeed 'far-religious'!
Hard religion is hard right/hard left. Same bloody difference.
Australian society is traditionally moderate, tolerant and easy going lot for all faiths. Traditionally it is also a classless society...until the banks took over.
Religion means rules, and typically prescribing social hierarchy - supporting supremacism of the 'faithfull' over the 'unfaithful'/'faithless'.
Most of these types are yet to learn Australian values of respect, tolerance and fair go.
Australia is not Taliban territory. No burkas, no nijabs, just respect your sisters.
John Marlowe
Pragmatic Spiritualist (whatever)
Baillieu government backflip on "red tape" for buildings
Feral developers and Darebin residents fight back
Atheism is now part of the so called far right.
On the Titanic
More land clearance not an acceptable alternative to crowding
Thanks for posting this article. The section of that article, "Other Costs", which I have reproduced below, I trust with Tony Recsei's approval, shows how costs of high-rise living are so much greater, economically and socially and environmentally, than its proponents have led many of us to believe.
Still, Tony Recsei's article shares a weakness with the report of which it is rightly critical in that it seems to accept that population growth must continue, when it has been imposed undemocratically by the parasitic growth lobby which profits from population growth at the expense of the whole Australian community. The standard of living of each member of the Australian community can only decline on average as more and more people are crowded together into this country where there is little potential for the real wealth-producing economy -- as opposed to the economy in which paper or electronic bits are pushed -- to grow.[1] Native Australian residents, without their own secure housing, pay even more for population growth, usually in the form of rent and mortgages. Housing prices have been driven up to line the pockets of the immigration pushers to levels that would have been considered extortionate one generation ago and daylight robbery two generations ago.
Tony Recsei's proposed solution, that is, the release of more land for housing, has its own environmental, economic and social cost: More and more vegetation would have to be cleared, as he implicitly acknowledges, and people would be forced to drive ever longer distances along ever more crowded roads[2] in order to reach work, shops, education and other amenities.
If population growth does not end we will find ourselves caught between a rock an a hard place
Other Costs
This section is reproduced from Tony Recsei's article
The report alleges that electricity consumption is greater in houses than it is in apartments. This is incorrect. Studies show that consumption per capita is greater in apartments. It appears that the data the report relies on does not take into account the consumption of electricity common to the whole apartment block such as lifts and lighting common areas such as foyers and car spaces.
The report also does not take into account costs to existing residents arising from forcing high-density into communities originally designed for low-density. These include:
- The impact on a single-residential property that has high-rise built next to it. This can involve theft of amenity: new in-fill residents look over gardens of existing residents while the latter have to look onto unsightly structures, and suffer lack of privacy and overshadowing.
- Congestion. Existing residents have to suffer from increasingly congested streets and shortage of street parking.
- Shortage of recreational facilities. As more vacant land is built upon in a community originally designed for low-density, it becomes difficult to secure new open areas to service the needs of the additional population at a reasonable standard.
- Reduction in housing choice, particularly for families. Most infill development consists of apartments which are not suitable for bringing up young children. Indeed the majority of those currently living in apartments do not do so by choice. A survey indicates multi-story apartments are not even acceptable to most people wishing to downsize, if they have other choices such as smaller single residential houses or villas.
- Reduction in biodiversity. When gardens and open space are replaced with unit blocks this has a severe effect on urban plant and animal life.
- Heritage items valued by the community such as traditional period architect designed housing are often lost.
- Atmospheric pollution. There is a local effect on residents of atmospheric pollution in high-density areas. This is due to higher traffic densities and to less volume of air being available for the dilution and dispersion of pollutants.
If these considerations had been quantified into the report’s calculations, they would have changed its overall findings.
End of section reproduced from Tony Recsei's article.
Foootnote(s)
[1] This has been made even made worse by the undemocratic imposition of economic neo-liberalism in 1983 by the then Federal 'Labor' Treasurer Paul Keating. Economic neo-liberal dogma largely prevents sovereign communities (aka 'government') -- as opposed to private corporations -- at the local state and federal levels, from owning wealth-producing assets and providing services to community members.
[2] In part, the additional commuting distances are the consequence of abysmal 'free market' town planning.. Roadways are more and more often becoming privately owned tollways.
Beer drinkers strike
Aussie Beer Drinkers Strike - Boycott Foreign Owned Brewers!
The purchase of Fosters Brewing by South African based company SABMiller, continues the buyout of Australian breweries by globalist corporations, and stoking further the foreign takeover of our community wealth. More foreign investment to make us all rich as liberal/labor politicians parrot, or only making it harder for Aussies to earn a decent living!
For Australians, beer drinking is a cultural and social tradition of leisure, and our brewers have competed for business through taste and style. Beer is the foremost responsible usage of alcohol. Our heritage includes the enterprising efforts of Master Brewers to establish breweries across the continent to cater to our pioneering working people. With the foreign monopolising of our brewing businesses, return on investment is now the primary aim, and beer excellence can only follow as a poor second.
Beer drinkers want more than just the boozing that foreign investors require for their returns - Australians want ownership of our own breweries and the resultant monetary and social wealth from production returned to us.
Beer brands that now make money for foreigners:-
NSW: Tooheys Beer - Lion Nathan - Japanese TAS: Boags Beer - Lion Nathan - Japanese
TAS: Cascade Beer - SABMiller - Sth African QLD: XXXX - Lion Nathan - Japanese
W A: Swan Beer - Lion Nathan - Japanese VIC: Carlton Draft Beer - SABMiller - Sth African
VIC: Victoria Bitter Beer - SABMiller - Sth African NSW: Hahn Beers - Lion Nathan - Japanese
S A: Westend Draft Beer - Lion Nathan - Japanese
Overseas control of our beer brewing is an insult to our traditions, our self respect, and contributes to the undermining of Aussies economic independence.
With foreign ownership near complete over major breweries in Australia, little now stands in the way of these profit driven conglomerates, which true to form will further see Australian beer drinker interests relegated to the $$$$ swill trough. Reducing stubbie size from 375ml to the piddly 330ml of overseas beers [same price of course], expanded chemical induced brewing practices, reductions in Aussie brewery worker conditions, tax free money flow out of Australia [feeling richer yet?], local output cut back to favour promoted imports, overseas sourced ingredients, cheap labour/recycled water usage in Asia, all on the agenda? Yuk to it all.
Australia First says it’s time for Aussies to :-
STRIKE AGAINST
FOREIGN OWNED BREWERIES
Australia First supports Australian brewery ownership, and naturally brewed high quality beers at readily affordable prices to enhance our leisure and lifestyle.
The profits from Australian productions should be kept in Australia and be shared amongst Aussies.
The Australia First Party as the champion of Identity, Independence and Freedom for our Australia People, calls on all beer drinkers to join in this strike as an achievable, personal action against being ripped off by globalist brewing conglomerates.
Spread the word:-
BUY BEER ONLY FROM AUSSIE OWNED BREWERIES.
BREWERIES TO SUPPORT IN THE STRIKE
The Coopers Brewery from South Australia tops the Australian owned list. This family company [founded 1862] exemplifies the Australian Spirit, continually producing an exemplary quality range of beers to traditional standards and Aussie taste. The Coopers family have tenaciously defended Aussie ownership and their independence, against globalist pariahs including the Japanese. The Coopers Family Brewers stand out as an example for us all!
Australian Craft or “boutique “ style beers, and Pub Breweries offer quality beers and should also be supported. Encouragement of our traditional 375ml size stubbies is recommended.
Aussie family pubs and liquor stores should not be subject to the strike pending their securing of adequate beer supplies from Australian owned brewers.
Australia First supports I] curtailing the excise tax on beer [now near 50% of the price] for Aussie owned brewers, reducing beer prices to realistic levels, and ii] ensuring the best quality beers to compliment a healthy cultural and leisure lifestyle, and iii] booting foreign brewery owners out of Australia!
And to our traitor class of big business money changers and their paid politicians who have orchestrated this globalist pillaging of our industries and productive wealth, we promise redress, appropriation and retribution! These are the same toads who are undermining our
National Identity and community through their swarm level
immigration, and Australia-hating multicultism agendas.
SUPPORT THE AUSTRALIA FIRST
STRIKE AGAINST
FOREIGN OWNED BREWERIES
IF YOU DON’T FIGHT - YOU LOSE!
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Voting for other than Australia First Party is just a waste of time
Candobetter Ed. We are happy to receive this article protesting foreign ownership. We have commented out some words from the last paragraph because this site, whilst deploring high immigration for its impact on population growth and democracy, does not promote opinion on ethnic preferences.
Free Software Melbourne meet Thursday 19 April
Carr relativism, UN incompetence
What they are doing to Sydney - Recsei's paper
Tony Recsei's paper, "Alternative Growth Paths for Sydney: A New Report and its Implications", has just been published on Newgeography's web site.
It provides an overview of the current planning regime for Sydney, and points out how undemocratic it is in the way that it allows the state government to override local objections to high density development.
It also provides a damning critique of the recently published report (pdf - 2.4 MB, 188pp) by the Centre for International Economics. This sets out a scenario for even higher density, backed by the flimsiest of evidence, which Tony demolishes.
It's clearly written, succinct, and should be a useful resource.
See: Alternative Growth Paths for Sydney: A New Report and its Implications at http://www.newgeography.com/content/002771-alternative-growth-paths-sydney-a-new-report-and-its-implications
Scientific facts.
How is Liberal/Labor bipartisan support for war 'noble'?
Whilst John Marlowe sees the bipartisan support by the 'Labor' Government and the Opposition for NATO's war against Libya (and prior to that Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, ...) as 'noble', most informed people would understand that, amongst other things, to be a failure to offer Australians a choice at the ballot box. The most likely reason that Prime Minister Gillard objected to Carr's appeal for bipartisan support is to help maintain the illusion that Australians are given a real choice at Federal elections, when they rarely have since 1983.
As well as supporting the alliance with the US and all the wars that that entails Labor and Liberal also both support 'free market' economic neo-liberalism which obliges Federal, state and local governments to own almost no wealth-creating assets and provide as few services a possible.
I also note that John Marlowe has yet to show why he does not accept the articles listed above as evidence that claims made by Obama, Clinton and Bob Carr against Syria are untrue.
Carr's noble bipartisan offering denied by Gillard puppetry
Bob Carr within hours of gracious acceptance of yearned government foreign aristocracy, publicly invited noble bipartisan sharing of ideas and co-operation on foreign policy with the opposition leader Tony Abbott.
4th March 2012:
Carr said he will reach out to the federal opposition to try to engender a more bipartisan approach to Australian foreign policy.
Mr Carr said another of his top priorities in the role would be to reach out to the coalition.
"My door will be open to explore with the opposition further opportunities for the sharing of information and bipartisanship," he told reporters.
"After all this is about Australia, it's about Australia's place in the world.
"We can maximise this area of policy if it is above party political disputation."
[http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/03/04/450735_politics-news.html]
14th March 2012:
Immediately after his anointment, Carr was obviously taken aside by the Gillard puppetry and served a 'this is how it is, right!', only to then re-surface publicly with his now infamous acidic branding of Tony Abbott as a "cheapskate hypnotist".
..."He's saying to the electorate, 'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker - no more boats'," Mr Carr said.
"'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker in Labor's big bad tax'.
"'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker - debt and deficit'.
"The endless repetition of these slogans is like an attempt by a trainee hypnotist to work wonders on a cobra in a basket.
"I think the electorate is far too intelligent for this."
The Labor Faceless Party controls the country.
John Marlowe
Candobetter no place for personal attacks
Candobetter welcomes the posting of any comment, whether supportive or critical, as long as it adds to the discussion and contains nothing libellous or illegal. Although I have no recollection of a post, other than spam, ever having been censored, the course of discussion on this page has caused me to reconsider that policy. From now on ad hominem attacks will be removed. We will endeavour to retain any substantive content in such posts, but will not expect other contributors to have to endure personal attacks on these pages.
Islam, Judaism not subject to the same scrutiny as Christianity
It's interesting that Christianity is allowed to be open for criticism and debates from the opposition, but imagine if Judaism or Islam - or other religions - we under the same scrutiny? There would be accusations of anti-semitism and a jihad from the Muslims!
Easter is a Holy time for Christians, but even this time is transparent for debate. God is greater than our intellects, and our comprehension of the Universe. He transcends our understandings, our culture, scientific learning, and is able to withstand the likes of Pell and Dawkins. The Laws of Nature - of biology and physics - are part of a whole Universe made by the Creator - He is truth and as such is able to be scrutinized, understood, categorized. There are no inconsistencies from science. Many scientists are people of the Christian Faith.
What to do with Trotsky bigotry?
To reply to an ignorant extremist, refusing to listen "not worthy of further response in my view", who only spews his Trotsky bigotry, distracts with conspiracy red herrings, how to respond?
Mmm, burn the incubators!
John Marlowe
Freedom of Association with the Great Unwashed
Beating the War Drums
Have incubator babies, WMDs gone right over your head?
John,
I note that my point about the 1991 incubator babies lie as well as the 2003 lie of Iraqi WMDs appears to have gone right over your head. Either you are profoundly ignorant about events of recent years or you believe that for the first time in decades the US and the mass media is telling the truth about a conflict that the US government intends to enter.
Just so you will at least be able to learn the truth about the incubator babies lie used to justify the 1991 war against Iraq in which 130,00 Iraqis were killed and after which an estimated 1,000,000 Iraqis civilians starved during the next 10 years in which sanctions were imposed, I include an embedded broadcast by Canadian Malthusian and truth activist Barrie Zwicker. (Barrie Zwicker narrated "The End of Suburbia"):
The rest of your post again repeats the lies of the mass newsmedia and claims the lying BBC, Guardian and Al-Jazeera (which commenced as the Arab language version of the BBC) to be more credible sources than the embedded YouTube/Global Research TV/Press TV broadcast and is not worthy of a further response in my view.
However, it concerns me that in response to what I consider my previous calm and polite post backed up by evidence and logic, I am likened to a "Nazi holocaust denier". If you truly believe that then you must also believe that you have shown very poor judgement about who you choose to associate with on the WWW.
Mass Murder deniers as dangerous as Nazi Holocaust deniers
Is Geoffrey Taylor suggesting that there is no conflict in Syria?
Perhaps he also watched Capricorn One too many times and believes Apollo 11 never took off either, or that the Nazi Holocaust never happened?
Perhaps Geoffrey Taylor turns the TV off when Kofi Annan describes the mass slaughter going on in Syria?
Perhaps Geoffrey Taylor choses to ignore the presence of growing refugee camps of Syrians in Turkey?
'Syrian forces injure three Turkish refugee camp' [UK Guardian, 9th April 2012]
I re-state: consider what Turkey is currently taking on as a consequence of Syria mass murder'.
'Syria Assad: Army massacres 'scores' in city of Homs' [BBC News, 4th February 2012]
'Turkey seeks UN help as waves of Syrian refugees cross the border' [The Age, 4th April 2012]
It is bad enough that truth is distorted out of the Syrian Civil War without fabricators/conspiracy theorists propaganding denial of the slaughter.
Lies and mistruths are dangerous.
Travel to Homs, Geoffery Taylor, and do some live streaming back to us - if you make it!
I am not supporting any foreign invasion, so your subtext is a fabrication also.
Your source is You Tube - what credibility is that?
At least my sources are the credible BBC News, UK Guardian, and The Age newspaper.
Here's a report from the United Nations itself..
"The Syrian authorities remain fully accountable for grave violations of human rights and international humanitarian law. These must stop at once," Mr. Ban said.
The UN estimates that more than 8,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed, and tens of thousands have been displaced since the protests in Syria – part of the broader Arab Spring movement across North Africa and the Middle East – began in March last year."
'UN chief condemns latest escalation of violence in Syria'
Perhaps Geoffrey Taylor considers this also to be a fabrication of the ongoing mass murder reality in Syria.
John Marlowe
Syrian mass murder claim, no more true than incubator babies lie
John Marlow wrote:
Consider what Turkey is currently taking on as a consequence of Syria mass murder
???!!!
This appears to echo the lies from the mass media about Syria. I trust that that was not your intention, John
I have read extensively about the claims of mass murder by the Syrian Government and found them to be no less bare-faced lies so than the lies used to justify the bombing of and invasion of Libya last year, the lie of WMDs used as a pretext to invade Iraq, the lie of 9/11 used as a pretext to invade Afghanistan in 2001, the lie of incubator babies used to justify the war against Iraq in 1991 and the subsequent economic sanctions that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children prior to the invasion of 2003. Anybody, who had taken the minimal amount of effort necessary to become familiar with the facts of the conflict in Syria (e.g. on Global Research and even here on candobetter), would know that it is the result of an armed insurgency by terrorist thug hirelings of the criminal NATO alliance powers, including Turkey, and not cold-blooded killings of defenceless protesters as has been deceitfully claimed by the mainstream newsmedia and at least one phony socialist newspaper.
Further evidence that CNN and Al-Jazeera have lied about the Syrian conflict can be seen in the YouTube broadcast, embedded below:
Broadcast is embedded from YouTube. It has also been embedded on Global Research TV and Press TV
Asylum Seeker Problem is a UN handball to burden others
Dawkins vs Pell
Dawkins vs Pell - TV entertainment
Rights of refugees/intending immigrants
Open Australia is a deliberately obscure website
Kelvin Thomson on population growth and loss of Qld elections
Doesn't "Open Australia" site concern government accountability?
John,
Could you please cite content of this site which advocates open-door immigration?
Whilst I agree that the Greens have been, at best, ambivalent on the issue of population growth and immigration, I have not been able to find any promotion of open borders from my perusal of openaustralia.org.
Rather, it seems to me that the main purpose of that site is for the Australian Federal Government through Parliament to be made more open and accountable, which we would all surely agree with.
If anything that site would make open borders, high immigration and population growth less likely whatever the intentions of Sarah Hanson-Young and other Greens.
Food and water security - global threats
Crimes of Nazis
Sarah Hanson-Flood Gate
You talk about "wilful overpopulation".
You ain't seen nothing!
Read the exponential immigrant invite and hormone pumped website of Sarah Hanson-Young:
"http://www.openaustralia.org/
No-one, but no-one can advocate human breeding more than this chick!
She is the main reason why The Greens mean anything but 'Green'. She should run her campaigns from a maternity ward.
Her extremist political agenda is all about people, more people, breeding faster, childcare, human rights, rights for young people wanting to breed, open door immigration, maximising human footprint on the planet and human fucking.
John Marlowe
SPA petition for a sustainable population