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but for what? We are not getting anything for all this suffering. We don't profit, but we pay. Who profits? The people running the show for their benefit. It's easy to spot them because they are always trying to justify more immigration and they never deal with the subject of wildlife corridors.

Switzerland and Austria refuse to "convict" Russia of the nerve gas poisoning in England until a full investigation is completed. Meanwhile records show that RUssia has no stockpiles of the nerve gas. From CLG News: Framing Putin - Saga of the Spy and the Nerve Agent | 15 March 2018 | Which first world countries still have chemical weapons? Russia got rid of all its chemical weapons under the supervision of OPCW. On the other hand, the US hasn't destroyed all its chemical weapons yet and there are still two Chemical Weapons sites in the US! The US government claims it will destroy them within the next five years. Ha ha... Samples Everywhere: The fact is that many labs around the world have samples of that deadly agent. It so happens that there is a UK military chemical lab in Porton Down, just a few miles from where the alleged incident took place. Lab Signatures Each lab has a signature attached to it, so, if the UK wanted to be credible, it would release the samples to third parties -- Russia and OPCW -- so they can analyze it and see where it came from. But the UK refuses to do so. Guess Who Lives in the US? The "father" of Novichok defected to the US a long time ago and lives in the US now. He brags about it openly on his Facebook page. His name is Vil Mirzayanov.

The areas in Australia where most of us live are changing so rapidly that we can see it on a day to day level. Building and road works are ubiquitous. Every day you see another house demolished and a sign up advertising generic "architecture" townhouses to be built. Yesterday I saw a huge shadow that I had never seen before covering a road cast by a new 16 sorry apartment building where previously all was low rise, no more than 2 storeys. Trees in the city are being felled like ninepins for road widening. The prospect of giant road projects dangle in front of Melbournians, promising to ease their daly struggle to get to work. These road projects come at enormous cost to the environment; compulsory acquisition of houses, loss of parkland, loss of bushland. One cannot help but be aware of it every day. It is all because of Australia's very high immigration which more than doubles what would be its population growth if it only had to cater for its own natural increase. We are paying dearly for this.

5. MY LETTER TO THE TREASURER RE SELLING THE LAND TITLES OFFICE you might want to send one too The Hon. Tim Pallas MP The Treasurer Government of Victoria Dear Minister Please take note that many of us out here are very concerned and angry that you would consider selling the information held by the Land Titles Office to a private organisation. This is dangerous and I resent information about me falling into private hands. This is a government organisation and it should stay in government hands. This is a very bad move and for what? We can see no reason to sell it. Are you so short of money? It is like selling the family silver. Please do not go through with this. Sincerely Mary Drost

Valid panellists to support mass immigration don't exist. The support for "big Australia" as beneficial to Australians and Australia does not exist. So they bring in the Grattan Institute and a mouthpiece for the Property Council of Australia? How can they be objective and indifferent? So where is the balanced panel, with advocates for the benefits of big immigration, and growth that would improve our budget, our living standards, better jobs, affordable housing and reduce debt as well as protect our environment? Clearly such panellists would not be found. The pro-growth "experts" are the front for property developers and big planners. The audience can see through this smoke-screen. Bob Carr and Tim Flannery are not backed by sponsors, or industries, that support population stabilization or lower growth rates. They are altruistic. So the supporters of big immigration should also have been objective and valid. The panel was skewed and mismatched. " Most egregious in argument technique and substance was Dr Jay Song, described as an 'Immigration Expert'. Who is paying her? She's obviously a mouthpiece for big growth, and a migrant. Nothing worse than a migrant saying we need to open our borders more. Imagine if we migrated to any of these Asian countries (unlikely as it is) and then told them publicly they needed unlimited number of Australians to work for them to build their economy? We would be slammed, and even arrested.

Q and A was negligent in allowing ignorance to reign regarding the consequences of the scale of our population growth and negligent in not bringing our the negligence of our short- term thinking and planning governments that place present and future Australia populations in peril.

The ANCOLD guidelines that now cause local retarding basins to be treated as major dams are based on the premise that increased urbanisation, with more hard surfaces, will cause more intense flooding. (See /node/5401.) The scale of flooding they seem to be anticipating is an indicator of the horrendous scale of population growth and urbanisation of which most Australians still have no inkling, due to the gross negligence of programs like Q&A which minimise the frightening reality of our governments' betrayal of Australians.

New migrants drive NSW population growth as birth rate slumps "New arrivals are powering the state’s population growth with overseas migration accounting for 80 per cent of the increase in the NSW population last year." https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-migrants-drive-nsw-population-growth-as-birth-rate-slumps-20180322-p4z5rm.html Note the use of the word 'powering' in an attempt to give a positive twist to what has become an invasion. It seems our elites are just begging for a revolution.

Travelling north along Williams Road en route to Northcote today around 1.00pm, surprise , surprise but after a few hours of fairly heavy rain, (the first in quite a few weeks),the road was flooded. Police car was there blocking off half the road , but the other half was also flooded but just negotiable. I only attempted it as the police car was there and others were going through. It is clear that the increased concreting and paving for ever more intense development is causing more water run-off. Then Punt Rd. was a nightmare of stop- start driving because of roadworks for widening to accommodate yet more traffic.

Joe's argument is shallow, at best, which is what most pro-immigration articles are. There is no real data or analysis to support the hypothesis that these jobs go unfilled, nor any analysis as to why they may go unfilled. He simply says its "jobs Australian's don't want to do", which is a falsehood repeated again and again. To suggest that there aren't people in Australia who would become radiographers is incredible. If there is a problem filling the gap, its a problem in the employment market within Australia, not because we aren't letting an external radiographer move here. He blames Australians for being lazy, but it is him that is being lazy with his analysis. Not willing to put the effort into examining why there are skill shortages (if they exist at all that is), we stick to the easy solution of mass immigration without bother to fix any structural problems here which may account for the perceived need for mass immigration.

I read Hildebrande's article and found it highly emotional and tangled up in a network of his own classifications and labels.It appears to have closed the discussion on that forum for now. Reading Mark Allen's excellent response here and then the article it refers to made me go back to what my own long held concerns are regarding an high population for Australia, especially if it is achieved in in a very short time. My concern arose from my appreciation of nature and strong belief that other creatures apart from humans have their right to a place in this country. It would appear from Hildebrande's closing sentence which had something to do with the inconvenience of trying to preserve a tree in the midst of urban transport infrastructure that nature is not one his concerns. We're all different! However, those who care, I would argue surely have more rights with respect to nature than those who don't. As it turns out much of our wildlife live exactly where we are putting more people and the beloved infrastructure that they thrive and operate on. One would think that we could take it as a"given" that it is important that we have an environment (essential, really). Now, the environment in Australia is deteriorating and this is due to population pressures and human activities. This is documented in various state of the environment reports. Here is just one example from the Australian State of the Environment report 2016 "The outlook for Australian biodiversity is generally poor, given the current overall poor status, deteriorating trends and increasing pressures. Our current investments in biodiversity management are not keeping pace with the scale and magnitude of current pressures. Resources for managing biodiversity and for limiting the impact of key pressures mostly appear inadequate to arrest the declining status of many species. Biodiversity and broader conservation management will require major reinvestments across long timeframes to reverse deteriorating trends." https://soe.environment.gov.au/theme/biodiversity Just to put things in a wider context.

Just caught the end of this program. It was Liz Allen's dulcet tones, stating that Australia's population growth is only limited by our innovation! I haven't yet listened to it, but the program listing gives a scarily pro-growth line-up of interviewees. There is a clear intention to paint the "population debate" as a Trojan horse for anti-immigrant and protectionist arguments. Ian Lowe is in there as a token environmental voice. But from Liz Allen's closing words, no heed was taken to those. Looks like another cause for complaint to the ABC. http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/talkfest/population/9522424 Population Talkfest, Saturday 17 March 2018 10:05PM George Megalogenis, Rita Panahi, Lauren Duca, Peter Mares and others explore the problem of population in a rapidly changing political, economic and environmental landscape. Debates about population often stand in for other issues in public discourse, from immigration to economic policy. This week on Talkfest we try to get to the heart of things and ask what a discussion of population should mean in 2018 Australia. Peter Mares, Michele Grossman and Rachel Buchanan deconstruct the social and racial dialogue surrounding the population debate - particularly the question of immigration - and argue for a more thoughtful, imaginative discussion of population in Australia. Ian Lowe, Louise Searle, Michael Buxton, and Lenore Manderson explore the many facets of the population question in Australia and how they intersect with the broader implications of a burgeoning global population. And finally we hear from a panel including Lauren Duca, Kenan Malik, George Megalogenis, Tim Wilson, Shen Narayanasamy, Rita Panahi discussing the evolving political landscape, both in Australia and internationally and dissecting hot-button topics from immigration to economic protectionism. Michael's co-host is demographer and social researcher, Dr Liz Allen.

Thank you for this article. After Matthew Bryan says how angry we all were, Dr Jay Song just highjacks the debate with nonsense. Dr. Jay Song's response is not intellectual or objective. It is manipulative and personal: "I, myself , I'm one of those recent migrants." It is as though she is saying "You are insulting me! You can't do that. It's bad manners." In a different setting this would be enough to close down the conversation. Then she introduces the "sacred cows" -diversity and multiculturalism [yawn!] "I respect" [you should too!]. She says that population growth is a global trend that is inevitable. Why should Australia be any different? she implies. Yet people on the whole are not having large families in Australia and without immigration Australia would be on the path to population stabilisation and eventual, ( much needed ) decline. She enumerates the serious effects of rapid population growth, but contradicts herself in saying that "the question is not about the number of migrants(!) - because 60% of them are skilled migrants and a further 30% "family migrants"- all contributing. She, by implication reassures that only less then 10% are humanitarian migrants , who are not included in her sweeping assessment of "contributing." She then states her own preference not to be in heavy traffic, for a clean, sustainable environment [which rapid population growth is making impossible] but to "grow together."

That interactive graph on the ABC site is supposed to convince anyone who uses it that Australia needs its current medicine of high immigration and population growth. This an attempt to persuade a population that does not like what is being done to it! Last year's survey by Bob Birrell and Katharine Betts tells us that over 70% of Australians are opposed to the current immigration led high population growth. People's feelings of being manipulated and told what to think as they lose their quality of life will not be overcome with a graph that gives them the illusion of control for a few minutes in order to see the future in terms of things that don't immediately impact on them e.g the proportion of people over 64 in 30 years. How does that compare with losing the parkland where you used to roam with your dog, losing this for a housing estate, never being able to guarantee reaching an appointment across town at the right time because of traffic, watching the trees where you live and the gardens destroyed as houses are demolished for developments bursting out of their blocks. and watching the council rates and rents rise as your local environment deteriorates before your eyes?

IMPORTANT NOTICE The Protectors of Public Lands Victoria Inc draws notice to a Public Forum at 7pm Wednesday 21 March at Brunswick town Hall, 233 Sydney Road, to advance a state-wide community based campaign to create a sustainable and integrated transport system. Something that has long eluded elected office-holders. The forum sponsor is the Moreland Community for Action on Transport (MCAT) that worked with PPL-Vic and many other community organisations and individuals to defeat the deeply flawed East-West Link. It will provide an opportunity to hear from and discuss with academics, experts and residents actively campaigning to stop or alter the latest bad road plan ideas being foisted on local communities. You will hear and engage with University of Melbourne Professor John Stone on the need for a new approach for an integrated transport system, from academic Clare Walter on the health implications of failing to do so, from Western Suburbs activists engaged in efforts to stop or alter plans for the West Gate Tunnel and others. You are invited to attend and to help spread the word on this important Public Forum. MCAT contact is Pauline Galvin who can be reached on mobile 0421 828 742. A flier is attached to send on to others. Brunswick Town Hall is easily reached by Tram 19 (Stop 21) and Jewell Station. There is free parking is available on Edwards Street car park, just off Sydney Road two blocks from Brunswick Town Hall. Best regards, Michael Petit, President Protectors of Public Lands Victoria Inc Mobile: 0417 354 169

SPA VicTas Branch President Michael Bayliss will be on ABC Local Radio
Melbourne 774 Friday 16th March 11AM to 12 Noon.
http://www.abc.net.au/radio/melbourne/live/
This Conversation Hour segment is to follow on from the Four Corners and
QandA programs of Monday night.

Presenter Jon Faine has half the Melbourne morning radio audience and is
extremely influential. The other guest is Toby Kent from the City of
Melbourne (Council) probably to champion 'sustainable' growth as an
excuse for unlimited growth.

The radio show numbers are.. Talkback: 1300 222 774 ; SMS: 0437 774 774

13 March 2018: Another immigration item on the ABC this morning: Radio National's AM featured a call for government funded internships to help skilled migrants find work. http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/am/calls-for-government-support-to-help-skilled-migrants-find-work/9541804 Given that we have actually handed these people permanent residence visas on the false pretense that Australia needs their skills, then yes, we should help them find work. But doesn't anybody think this is glaring proof that the "skilled migration" program is not filling skills needs? They want employers to take immigrants, on government-subsidised wages, instead of taking an Australian job applicant. It generates NO new jobs in these industries. The Bangladeshi migrant featured had been given a permanent visa for himself and at least two children on the basis of his qualifications. All are presumably subsisting on welfare. The "points system" ("skilled independent" and "state & territory & regional sponsored", as opposed to "employer sponsored") is over half the skilled visa quota. It could be abandoned tomorrow without limiting any employer's access to foreign workers.

Australian Detective: Clinton Foundation Stole Millions Of Aussie Tax Money January 17, 2018 Baxter Dmitry News, World 4 The FBI is investigating details involving multiple allegations against the Clinton Foundation corruption and mishandling tens of millions of dollars of Australian tax payers’ money, according to an investigative journalist who is a retired police detective.I have been asked to provide the FBI with further and better particulars about allegations regarding improper donations to the CF funded by Australian taxpayers,” c, the former detective, told LifeZette. At the center of Smith’s complaints are former President Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and multiple Australian government officials, including senior diplomat Alexander Downer, that government’s high commissioner to the United Kingdom. LifeZette reports: Downer hit U.S. headlines recently when he was reported to have told the FBI of a May 2016 conversation he had with George Papadopoulos, then a campaign aide to President Donald Trump. Downer told U.S. law enforcement officials that Papadopoulos told him Russia had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. The New York Times claimed in its Dec. 30, 2017, story that the information Downer gave the FBI was a major factor in the bureau’s decision to investigate allegations of collusion between Russian interests and the Trump campaign. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI last year. The materials Smith is giving the FBI focus on a 2006 memorandum of understanding between the Australian government and the Clinton Foundation’s Clinton HIV/AIDs Initiative (CHAI). Smith claims the foundation received a “$25M financial advantage dishonestly obtained by deception” as a result of actions by Bill Clinton and Downer, who was then Australia’s minister of foreign affairs. Also included in the Smith materials are evidence he believes shows “corrupt October 2006 backdating of false tender advertisements purporting to advertise the availability of a $15 million contract to provide HIV/AIDS services in Papua New Guinea on behalf of the Australian government after an agreement was already in place to pay the Clinton Foundation and/or associates.”

Here is a question that I put on the Q & A site a few days ago. I later attempted to upload it as a video, but although it uploaded, it was not published.

"Who cleans up the blood as human expansion wrecks wildlife habitat?
Carers pay for artificial nests, feeding, nursing, medicating so many injured and displaced animals. VicRoads removing 800 trees for road and rail expansion. Melbourne Water de-treeing local parks, treating 212 small retarding basins as major dams, due to anticipated flooding from land-use intensification. Huge gaps in wildlife protocol, laws not enforced. If they were, much expansion would be halted. Who speaks for wildlife on your panel tonight?"

I can understand your despair Steve. It's amazing how many people out there in the burbs and sticks take as gospel what the MSM tells them, very rarely are both sides to any conflict/story given and more often than not what is presented is a blatant lie. The one that springs to mind is the use of chemical weapons which was originally rebutted many years ago. The MSM know, however, that this will get the attention of the electorate and they know it will foment hatred and bitterness towards those who are supposed to have used such weapons and thus, their job is complete. For they are the lackeys of American hegemony and their job is to, in this case Assad, paint him as the evil dictator ruthlessly killing his own people in a bloody civil war. The truth, as we know, is the reverse, but the MSM will never admit to this even when it comes face to face with the evidence of a war perpetuated on the Syrian people waged in proxy by the United States of America. If the MSM had the intestinal fortitude to expose the Yanks for what they are, the world would be a better place for it.

This letter was published in the Age today. Chris Burgess of Port Melbourne has swallowed lock stock and barrel all the western propaganda for continuous war. He even quotes the US on Vietnam. He probably fell for the incubator babies of Iraq, the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the mad dictator in Libya before falling for the mad dictator in Syria bullshit. Where is the critical thinking necessary to see the repetitive lying of the western warmongers? How could Bashar al-Assad survive in Syria over the last 7 years if the army and his people were against him? Syria needs friends, not idiots. Destruction assured In 1968, at the height of the war in Vietnam, an American commander said, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." Fifty years later, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has upped the ante, instead of a just a village, now it's an entire country. I despair that, yet again, the Syrian government, along with its Russian cronies, will ignore the latest UN resolution, and every day, in the newspapers and on our TV screens, we will see more innocent civilians, including children, lose their lives because one man's puffed up ego. Chris Burgess, Port Melbourne

That's for sure. Long-time no hear from, VivKay. I missed your lively metaphors.

Candobetter.net Editor: This timely comment has been republished as an article, here: "Diversionary tactics, smokescreens and the Electoral Funding and Disclosure Bill 2017". ........................ My first glimpse of the political gravy train (game of mates) in Australia was back in 1992 prior to Jeff sacking Victoria’s councils. As a bastard from the bush in the State seat of Rodney I’d joined the National Party who at the time was doing some good work for the farming community. The local branch had called an open meeting for all members and prospective members to attend to hear from speakers Noel Maughan (MLA for Rodney) and Bill Baxter (MLC for North East Province) regarding the forthcoming election. The spectre of Council Amalgamations was in the wind and at the meeting we were informed by Bill Baxter with great emphasis that the National Party would not tolerate Council Amalgamations in any shape or form whatsoever. Within 2 years Council Amalgamations were rammed through parliament with the National Party’s blessing. At a subsequent meeting of the local branch of the Nashos when it was put to Bill Baxter regarding the obvious about-face, flip, sell-out, he refuted (lied) that he had ever given the aforesaid commitment. The meeting degenerated into a farce with Bill being ushered out the back door and many members including yours truly resigning their membership in disgust! I came to realise over the ensuing years that all of the major political parties carried political baggage similar to that of the National Party. The (once) Liberal Party had morphed into a conservative organisation taking the nashos with them (or Vicky Verca), the Labour Party sold out the workers, both parties adopted neoliberal principles and the Democrats were on a hiding to nothing trying to keep the bastards honest. The neoliberal mantra under the Hawke/Keating Federal Government and the Kennett State Government redefined the political landscape dramatically during this time. Today the landscape has only changed in the fact that the Demos have gone and have been replaced by the “Greens” who are also neoliberal despite somewhat honourable beginnings. Politically Australia has become a backwater of neoliberalism similar to North America and most of Europe and is suffering under the yoke of American hegemony, Chinese influence, neo-classical economics, overpopulation driven climate change and political indecision on all facets of the home front. Much of what passes for legislation at federal level today is aimed at putting out spot fires or shoring-up community/electoral support for the Turnbull Government. Similar to the State Governments of both Baillieu and Napthine, the Abbott and Turnbull Federal Governments have been do nothing ministries. There has been no significant legislation that these Premiers/Prime Ministers could or can hang their hats on, nothing, nought, zip, zilch!! They have gone from proposing the ludicrous to the unworkable, shoring-up their support as they go! As spot fires break out around them their time and energy is consumed putting them out. In an effort to achieve this, diversionary tactics or smoke screens are often employed to take the community’s/electorate’s eye off the ball. The classic here was the “Same Sex Marriage” bill which was always going to get up, being taken to a (“referendum”) postal vote. This took some of the heat off the Feds for 6 months wasting time and money. In the meantime, Australia, as a nation, just drifted along with the Yanks pulling us one direction and the Chinese the other. I read with interest the excepts from Clive Hamilton’s book “Silent Invasion” in Saturday’s Age and am currently reading Robert Macklin’s “Dragon & Kangaroo” and I’m beginning to understand an aspect of Australia’s history they I hadn’t grasped previously. Unfortunately, there is not much to like in what I’ve read so far and combined with our colonial sycophancy and our current obsequiousness to the good old USofA, we are sadly lacking especially when it comes to leadership of the nation. To me the “Electoral Legislation Amendment (Electoral Funding and Disclosure Reform) Bill 2017” is more of the same – putting out a spot fire/diversionary tactic. The bill may be aimed at so-called charities that provide political advocacy while at the same time accommodating such advocacy through the back door, the bill may claim some smaller fry that are, to the government, collateral damage. Instead of addressing political donations head-on, we pathetically tinker around at the edges. As the dust settles the sharks that were dominating the pond are still there while the sardines have been thinned out! However, I do believe that any bid to curb the right of individuals to collectively provide alms and benevolence or to protest by either the Federal or State Governments to be an infringement of our civil liberties. This where the Australian constitution is an absolute dodo. Similar to the constitution not recognising First Australians, it doesn’t recognise the civil liberties of all Australians. As the constitution continues to fail all Australians and it will increasingly do so in the future, the more ordinary Australians and groups of Ozzies including charities will come under the spotlight. These individuals and groups will then be put under the microscope while those with money, power and political clout will able to evade this bandaid legislation and carry on as if nothing has happened. Meanwhile the yawning gap between the haves and the have nots widens appreciably. As the middle class become trapped by the zombie neo-classical economics, climate change tightens its noose, environmental degradation continues unabated, resources become depleted, civil unrest mounts as people go hungry, fresh water diminishes and spills over into war and mass migration. This is the leaderless society that is being thrust upon us. Overpopulation is a killer!! John Bentley

Those who are manipulating our immigration policies and pushing for big immigration are surely guilty of conflicts of interests. Those at top of our Economic Pyramid of privileges are clearly pushing their own interests , of themselves and that of their high-rolling business friends/promoters with deep pockets and political power. The future of Australia is under their control, and our population size will have a tremendous impact on future generations. This topic of immigration should not be taken trivially, or allowed to be controlled by governments who only care about short-term money flows and benefits for those at the top of the Ponzi scheme. Where is the debate that we can all be part of? They know the bulk of Australians, and our country, are NOT thriving and benefiting from our mass immigration. At least the topic has come into the open, like the puss on the carbuncle.

I posted the following in response to the article Syria, Turkey, Russia and the Kurds: the struggle for Afrin (25/2/18) | The Duran by Alexander Mercouris:

As the article shows, an all-out invasion by Turkey would be a mortal threat to the Syrian government.

Even if Sultan Erdogan now claims to be hostile to the United States government, how can we assume that the United States would disapprove of the Turkish Army's efforts to achieve what the United States' terrorist proxies have failed to do since March 2011?

Possibly the only way that lasting peace can be achieved in Syria is for the regime change to occur in Turkey (and elsewhere).

But, by helping Erdogan defeat the attempted coup of July 2016, supposedly orchestrated by the United States, and by its endorsement of the rigged constitutional referendum of April 2017 which gave President Erdogan more power at the expense of the elected Turkish Parliament, the Russian government helped further entrench Erdogan in power.

Thanks for the comment, Simone. In part the article's focus was to link isolated events that have caused protests, with wider government policies behind them, which most protesters are still not aware of - often because they simply cannot believe that their governments would do this to us. Also, I wanted to show how population growth is now directly causing tree clearing on a grand scale, due to changes in policy to adapt to greater volumes of traffic and runoff. The thing that alerted me early to what I would call overpopulation in Australia was the effects I could see on habitat and less frequent sightings of wildlife, more rabbits and rundown farm properties near towns, changes in the 'demography' of rural areas, with 'sea-change' and retirement villages popping up in once-was farmland, rabbits and rats all over the place. I remember a one-eyed half-starved wallaby trying to eat a watermelon husk on the outskirts of a camping ground. If I went into the bush, sometimes I did not even hear birds. Giant ferns in once perfect coast forests started to dry and weed species competed with them. I'm thinking of changes to between Waratah Bay and Cape Liptrap, actually. That is where I first noticed them, beginning in the late 1980s - after coming out of a long period more or less marooned in urban Melbourne. I also began to notice the effects of fires; there was less and less undergrowth. Large trees few and far between.

This article is an excellent overview of current destruction of the local environment in Victoria and most likely other states. It is not comprehensive of course because there is always more; our forests, our waterways and our oceans too are suffering from human impacts. If we do not reverse this fast , we are in terrible trouble. Where do we turn to? Everywhere we think we should be able to turn,it's as though the establishment is run by drunks , drug addicts or sleepwalkers. The people trying to correct the steering on the terrible wrong turn or deal with the fallout are all volunteers. No authority is taking care of us or our fellow creatures.

Hi Peter, see https://www.facebook.com/Can-Do-Better-1465862880372204/. Thanks for commenting. I've become aware of the legislation and the animal rescues on the ground only recently. AWPC has a new president and secretary who are both experienced animal rescuers and carers and we have been really into detailed confrontation with the various cruelty laws and their administration and failure to enforce. We interact with a number of other wildlife rescuers etc and this has been a fascinating revelation of the level of unofficial harassment and exploitation of wildlife rescuers and carers from government departments as well as callous failure to enforce laws. As for the film, as you can see it's old, in an old format, and when I uploaded it there were restrictions on the size, therefore on the definition, unfortunately. But it is true that that film shows how I feel. The footage of new housing and land being torn up was done at the beginnings of the Cranbourne and Berwick housing tsunami which now spreads like an ocean of dead material.

Sheila, your post is an eloquent, beautiful and heart-wrenching piece of writing. Thank you for expressing what so many of us feel, and yet which somehow does not enter the consciousness of many highly educated, intelligent professionals who still think it is ok to feed the growth megamachine, using the justificatory tools of economics in particular. I also loved the video which was part of your post -- really outstanding. By the way, does the candobetter site have a facility to share via FB and to Tweet your posts? It would make it easier to get the message out.

We must give credit where credit is due and thank Tony for his belated opinion on rampant immigration and its affect on the Australian economy and way of life. Now that Tony has come "clean" on immigration, it will be interesting to see how and when the remainder of political spectrum sees the lay of the land. Government ministers have, naturally, slated Tony for his comments, but where do the Labs, Greens and the rest of our members of parliament stand on this topic and will the mainstream media have the intestinal fortitude to ask them? My bet is that the first part of the question will in the negative (they'll skulk around hiding and not want to answer) the question and a most definite no!

Interesting to see that Barry Jones, who chaired the 1994 Inquiry into Australia's Population Carrying Capacity, turned up to this event. No-one, however, seems to have mentioned how Melbourne's constant invitation to more and more commercial immigrants is driving this dystopia. (https://liveinmelbourne.vic.gov.au/). What a clear sign this de-treeing of a major avenue is of the government's complete contempt for Australian national symbols and their signalling to the public that it is powerless against their despotism. St Kilda Road Avenue and the War Memorial and Botanical Gardens complex are national symbols equivalent to the Champs Elysees in Paris and other victory and memorial avenues around the world. Destroying them signals to Australians that they have no rights at all in their environment. It goes together with the outsourcing of Melbourne's Planning and many other once-was-a-government services, including water, power and telecommunications. Dave Davis's comments on Heritage Victoria's giving permission for this outrage, were interesting. This destruction is also indicative of contempt for Melbourne's once famous town planning, which provided wide streets and many parks. Now these excellent provisions have been overexploited, despite the many warnings and the obvious signs along the way. Why? Because Australia is ruled, at federal and state level, by corporations invested in urban, rural infrastructure and property development and the financing of this. That is our only industry and it is eating us alive. Unfortunately, for all Dave Davis's words, his own party is into the same trough.

Speakers included Michael Buxton, Senator Derryn Hinch, Barry Jones and the former Governor of Victoria Alex Chernov. Later Mary Drost will be sending out all the speeches by email thanks to Tony Michael and Jill Quirk. Mary will probably also send them to MPs so that they can see for themselves these well known people very angry with what is going to happen in St KIlda Road. A disaster. Facebook photos here: https://www.facebook.com/pg/Protectors-of-Public-Lands-Victoria-826936314152364/photos/?tab=album&album_id=883610875151574.

Thanks Sheila I agree with your sentiments and those of the interviewees that the Koreans are talking to each other which is a big step away from what our western governments and mainstream media would have us believe. The belligerence and the United States of America and sycophantic nations like Australia are being mocked on the international stage like never before. Not since February 13 has The Age mentioned Kim Yo-jong after Max Boot correctly paraphrased "North Korea has emerged as the early favourite to grab one of the Winter Olympics'most important medals: the diplomatic gold." With this achievement in the bag, the Koreans don't have to do anything and anything the Americans and their lackeys may say, in deference, will be egg on the face. Many people are starting to realise that the western belligerent model is not working. The George Bush II model "my way or the highway" doesn't wash! The lies, the subterfuge, the assassinations, the regime and attempted regime change, the subversive wars and blood letting, the genocide - people are slowly starting wise-up. Syrians want to be Syrians in their own land, similarly Koreans want to be Koreans in Korea. Peace can only achieved by understanding that we are not all the same and that we must make allowances for for different beliefs by religions and for religions. We must show tolerance and compassion for different races and political beliefs. We in the west must realise that American hegemony doesn't equal democracy. That neoliberalism doesn't equate to the Australian value of a "fair go", it promotes greed and fear in it's place. We, the ones with the egg on our face, are the ones that must extend our hands in friendship and good will!

Like most Koreans, the farmers and fishing families protested the senseless division of their nation between north and south in 1945 - a line drawn along the 38th Parallel by an American official, Dean Rusk, who had "consulted a map around midnight on the day after we obliterated Nagasaki with an atomic bomb," wrote Cumings. The myth of a "good" Korea (the south) and a "bad" Korea (the north) was invented.

I suspect we are up to around stage or 4 or 5: "The Kubler-Ross 5 stages of grief are 1. denial 2 anger 3. bargaining 4.depresion 5. acceptance" But the trouble is, the stages only apply in situations where there is no more options. There are more options after acceptance in society - i.e acceptance that something is seriously wrong - and that is definitely the stage we do not want to reach, as that is the stage when things get decided ugly as people with nothing more lose not only disengage, but then turn against the system that they see as causing their pain. I suspect the USA is entering into this 6th stage, and that that is also the path we are on, and policy makers are digging the grave of Australian society as we knew it up until the mid-1980's, and even the remnants of that society which still exist today, will all be swept away - first by the systemic onslaught against living standards and families, then by the publics' (mainly young people's) reaction to that. It is very dangerous ground we are entering into. Young people have massive debts, are under enormous stress, and many I suspect wonder if they have a future. What keeps the system going despite all this is the bubbles of mining and housing (which although indebting young people, also keeps them in work building and renovating each others' houses - all on borrowed coin). Take this bubble employment away, and there is not much left but anger or despair. I am sure the policy makers know this, that is why they dare not do anything that will deflate the bubble, yet inevitably it will deflate, and the longer it goes, it worse it seems to be getting. Matt

Do we really have to re-iterate that migrants have made a great contribution to Australian society when discussing immigration numbers? "We" have made both good and bad contributions over the last century plus. The level of planned immigration is a policy issue that should be in the interests of the people already living in Australia and not in the interests of economic measures such as GDP or even GDP per capita if the latter more useful measure does not translate into a better quality of life for population already in the country. This serious matter that drastically affects liveability and the environment needs to be kept separate in discussion from the personal realm.

Carla says that people in Australia must eventually accept the changes that population growth necessitates. She needs to accept that if high population growth driven by high migration cannot be changed then Australians especially in the cities will take some time to get to this. The Kubler-Ross 5 stages of grief are 1. denial 2 anger 3. bargaining 4.depresion 5. acceptance. I am not sure what are up to at present.

I received this message yesterday- it seems all that the community can do now for the St. Kilda Road trees - a continuous vigil When ? ongoing from now Where? -St. Kilda Road near the Albert Reserve , near Domain Road and the Shrine.Please read on. Hi Trees are being taken down in St Kilda Road today and over the next days or week. We have the extraordinary situation of this destruction of a Victoria Heritage listed, National Heritage listed, grand, continuous multiway boulevard and its continuous lines of trees and canopy, world famed as an example of this lauded form, historically and in modern urban environments, and formally and officially now a permanent ‘National Treasure’ for Australia. 1. A vigil in St Kilda Road: this is being organised from grass roots level, so it is asked that each and all of you attend and contact others to attend and grow this. Please contact friends, family and associates and go to St Kilda Road, near the Albert Reserve, near Domain Road intersection and the Shrine and begin a vigil. It is intended to grow this as a continuous vigil to show that we care. It is important to show this care… and attend, even briefly and seek to grow this. Someone could bring a tent for shelter from the rain. Bring any posters or banners you have, e.g. the Melbourne South Yarra Residents Group ‘Don’t Destroy the St Kilda Road Trees’ one, or the Save St Kilda Road ones, write your own message on cardboard, or just attend. 2. See attached: Maps of what has been permitted by Heritage Victoria (9/2/2018) 3. Following is copy just published by Heritage Victoria, and we absolutely disagree with it. (1) the tree removal/trees are visible. Some are in direct sight of the Shrine and Shrine Reserve. The National Heritage listed place will be “…visibly (and) physically impacted by the permitted works” – as will the works planned to follow these site ‘preparatory’ works, as is and will be the Victorian Heritage listed place St Kilda Road and other Victorian Heritage listed places. And (2) the entirety of St Kilda Road from Princes Bridge to Henry Street at the entrance to St Kilda Junction is on the National Heritage Register. And (3) the multiway boulevard form, for which St Kilda Road is a famed world example, is long and continuous. “Q & A Permits Issued by Heritage Victoria Domain (ANZAC) Station Metro Tunnel Project Works Permits 13 February 2018 What heritage permits have been issued? On 9 February 2018 Heritage Victoria provided permit approval for Metro Tunnel Project (MRP) works for the Domain (ANZAC) Station construction site. …. What are the implications of the National Heritage Listing of St Kilda and its Environs? St Kilda Road and its environs, including the Shrine of Remembrance and the Domain Parklands, were given an emergency listing in the Commonwealth Government’s National Heritage List in February 2017. While all of the St Kilda Road, from the Yarra River to the Henry Street, is included, the heritage values for St Kilda Road focus on the vista from the Yarra River to the Shrine. This portion of the road will not be visually or physically impacted by the permitted works.” ____________________________________ 4. Attached is some information on the world significance and contemporary urban value of internationally acclaimed boulevard St Kilda Road, and the heritage values of its boulevard form and continuous length:NOT ATTACHED IN THIS COMMENT Ref. The Boulevard Book: History, Evolution, Design of Multiway Boulevards Authors Allan B. Jacobs, Elizabeth Macdonald, Yodan Rofé Edition illustrated Publisher MIT Press, 2002. This is an award-winning, academically acclaimed, researched book. 5. Photographs: Please send your photos showing the visual and physical impact of the permitted works and tree removals on the National Heritage listed place. Regards, B. McNicholas

Yes, my area Seaford is not-so-slowly changing before my eyes - good solid family homes with yards being pulled down (everything on the block completely flattened - all vegetation removed) then a massive box-like house built there - going from one fence to the other (no inset). Hardly any room for vegetation - maybe a few Yukkas here and there (a plant I have quickly gotten sick of in its ubiquity). Large trees are removed - either when the blosk is sold to developers - or in some cases, on recommendation of real-estate agents (I suspect) to make the block more attractive to developers (rather than families that might like some shady trees) and thus command a higher price. Such petty greed (for better prices and bigge, newer houses) is indeed slowly destroying our neighbourhoods, and I believe our souls. Having greenery around is really theraputic, without it we forced to artificial entertainments to provide variety and release from the mundanities of life.

After going house/unit hunting with my niece on Saturday in the northern suburbs of Melbourne I was not impressed at all. One set of town house/unit thingies that will sell for around $600 to $700k was in a word a "slum"! There is no other way to describe it despite it being brand new. While the thingies were cheap and nasty, the thing that struck me more than anything was the lack of vegetation. There were no trees, no grass and less than a dozen shrubs lining the driveway and the front of the thingies. The second set of units wasn't much better although it did have a small patio area with some shrubs and small trees. I believe that Melbourne as city is dying from within. Like a death from a thousand cuts, every time a tree is chopped down (and not replaced) is another cut and the death is slow and painful. However, nothing will be done to prevent this until the people of Melbourne rise up en mass and protest to stop this madness. And that is not likely to happen anytime soon.

SUSTAIN ABILITY IS AUSTRALIA FIRST The Programme:- 1] Australian cultural values including non materialism, and respect for our Sacred Native Soil. 2] Steady State economics for prosperity, environmentalism, and independence, ensuring community participation and enhanced fulfilling lifestyles. 3] National self-sufficiency - Australian owned production of all required consumerables; inherent with environmental and recycling outcomes. 4] Citizens self-sufficiency living through modern non polluting technologies. 5] End ALL immigration -. Repatriate unsustainable Third World aliens/welfare burdens, and return to path of stable population for our Aussie community and Native Soil. 6] Phase out foreign corporations primary production and food exports encouraging third world overpopulation chaos. End foreign ownership/control in economy. 7] Introduce Citizens Initiated Referenda and Parliamentary Recall, re-empowering Individuals of The Commonwealth with authority over the political process, lifestyle, and the purpose for a High Culture. AUSTRALIA FIRST:- RECLAIMING A SUSTAINABLE AUSTRALIA FOR AUSTRALIANS

The grand scale of this onslaught and destruction of trees is quite overwhelming. It is irresponsible to densify an area to the extent that it is necessary or in their terms, justifiable to remove trees. This action should signal that the suburban areas relating to each retarding basin are all FULL and should not be taking extra population.

The best way to "put money in people's pockets" is to ensure they are paid well or at least properly and to ensure that the necessities of life - housing, power and water are affordable. Decisions taken by governments in Australia in the last few decades have mitigated against this. e.g massive immigration, privatisation and loss of manufacturing due to government decisions favouring imports.They have made Australia more "competitive" but with no net benefit to its people.

Don't forget Foran and Poldi's Future Dilemmas: Options to 2050 for Australia's population, technology, resources and environment, 2002. http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/33785/20030616-0000/www.cse.csiro.au/research/program5/futuredilemmas/index.htm Commissioned by the Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigeneous Affairs(DIMA), it predicted all our problems, and the government ignored it.

Just with reference to Peter Cook's recommendation that "The Australian Government should fund the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) to publish projections of the likely impact of varying rates of population growth on the built and natural environment. This analysis could form part of the CSIRO’s National Outlook publication. The release of this analysis should be synchronised with the release of the Australian Government’s Intergenerational Report," I wanted to remind people that the CSIRO provided such a report just before it was largely privatised. Economists actually distorted the expression of the scientific conclusions in their editing, which was largely forced on the scientists. The report, by Barney Foran and Franzi Poldi, was called, Future Dilemmas: Options to 2050 for Australia's population, technology, resources and environment, 2002.

About the Report
What impact will the size of Australia's future population have on the environment, the physical economy, the national infrastructure and our quality of life?

To gain insights into what the future might hold for Australia, researchers at CSIRO Sustainable Ecosystems have developed new tools and approaches to modelling Australia's dynamic physical economy.

Future Dilemmas is a technical report that encapsulates the results of this research, which was commissioned by the Commonwealth Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs (DIMIA).

It explores the future effect of three population/immigration scenarios on infrastructure, resources and the environment out to the year 2050.

The first scenario considers what would happen if the net immigration rate was zero persons a year (described as the low scenario in the report).
The second considers what happens if the rate was 70 000 a year (the current policy setting, and described as the medium scenario).
The third examines the consequences of an immigration rate set at two thirds of one percent (0.67%) of the current population per year (described here as the high scenario).
The low scenario (zero immigration) represents the policy position of some environment groups. Based on current population growth, it would see a domestic population of 20 million by 2050. The medium scenario gives a population of 25 million by 2050. The high scenario (0.67% growth pa) is a position advocated by many business interests. It gives us 32 million people by 2050.

Future Dilemmas explores the consequences of these three scenarios for people, urban infrastructure, the natural environment, energy, water and a broad range of other issues.

Future Dilemmas: options to 2050 for Australia's population, technology, resources and environment was officially launched on Thursday 7 November 2002 by the Hon Philip Ruddock, Minister for Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs.

Is this mainstream propaganda posing as political satire or is it just a lecture? I couldn't find any punch lines.

Hi Matt, found a body of work on the internet you might find of interest to you studies. YouTube 'Martha Creek speaker'. Wisdom with a light touch. Have only watched a little so far but looks very promising.

A powerful speech by the Hungarian PM. It is interesting that he attributes the pro- immigration push to the left of politics . Surely a lot of this must come from the right as well? What comes through strongly in his speech is "listen to the people.'

Stagnation means stink, sluggishness, dis-ease, pest species, and death to legitimate lifeforms. Everything slows down to lifelessness and glug. What we have now is strangling economic excellence with the wrong growth. It's malignant, and fake growth. Surely the killing of trees, wildlife, crime, pollution, homelessness, dis-order are all symptoms of stagnation.

Absolutely agree. In fact, I have thought of a way to get public attention: we should advertise a competition for the a videoed drive to get to or from work demonstrating the most congestion. I'll suggest that to a few relevant NGOs via email.

Instead of growth that stimulates activities and the economy, Melbourne - far from streamlining- is struggling with stagnation. Once traffic is congested, movements are slowed down with endless delays and gridlocks, it impinges on the economy, and human movements. We are meant to "grow" to prove that life still exists in the city, but on the contrary, life can be choking and dampening. A stagnant water pool is not actually lifeless, but full of unwanted and choking algae and bacteria. What about a streamlined and efficient city, one with an optimum population and an economy that is efficient, egalitarian and stimulated by innovation, ideas, knowledge and cutting edge designs? There's no limits to intangibles. BUT, relying on real estate, housing/population growth, and Ponzi madness is self-destructive, debt-laden and totally against any ideals of being STREAMLINED!

"A koala has been found crushed in a forest north-east of Melbourne, after the government went against its own advice to protect the land from logging."

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/global-embarrassment-critics-deride-plan-to-stop-plant-and-animal-extinctions-20180119-h0ld7g.html

Australia First Party Whatever will benefit Australia -that we are for -Whatever will harm Australia -that we are against - William Lane END THE IMMIGRANT DRIVEN POPULATION PLAGUE :- *Destroying community identity & purpose *Aussies becoming strangers in the street *Clogging of roads beyond belief *House price increases over the edge *Welfare drained from our own needy *Aussie youth disinherited from Australia *Aussie homeless numbers exploding *Consumer waste overwhelming land fill *Oceans swilling with sewerage outpour *Cheap labour immigrants taking Aussie jobs *Native wildlife & habitat imploding *Alien allahpox and terrorism *Foreigners’ crime gangs amok In suburbs *Aussie culture swamped by multiculti pox Australia is 90% desert/non arable, TOTALLY unsuitable for a population swarm. More people less wealth! THE BIG BUSINESS IMMIGRATION PROGRAMME IS A CATASTROPHE - CLOSE IT DOWN - AUSSIES HAVE HAD ENOUGH!! AUSTRALIA FIRST WILL:- 1a] End ALL immigration. b] Dismantle the Federal Government Department of Immigration and all its ancillaries. c] Abolish any other Government, or public body that advances immigration. d] Refuse the demands of big business/ money changers for immigration to force exponential “growth” driven profits. e] Abolish migration agents, migration lawyers, and migration do gooder organisations. f] Advance non materialist values of Australian culture. Scrapheap multicultist pox and its promoters. g] Introduce population criteria into future directions. 2a] Direct for National self-sufficiency objectives in ALL commerce and industry. b] Develop free enterprise Steady State economic goals and outcomes. c] Advance citizens self-sufficiency through access to modern non polluting technologies, d] Ownership of Australia to be taken back by and for Australians. Foreign imperialists/ lackeys ejected! e] Introduce Citizens Initiated Referenda and Parliamentary Recall, re-empowering Individuals of The Commonwealth with authority over the political process, lifestyle, and the purpose for a High Culture. Australia First Party P O Box 223 Croydon 3136 http://australiafirstparty.net [email protected] Tele: 0408 554542 - 02 8587 0014 Join the fight to reclaim our Australia!

".......It's racist and does nothing to address consumption" [and] "I suggest your views may be better received with the Sustainable Australia Party." Charming! Defamatory?

So the Greens are not even prepared to enter into debate or discussion on this issue - they threaten you with expulsion for raising 'heretical' ideas? There would be no need to 'license' the having of children in Australia, as the birth rate is about replacement rate of deaths. And the reason for this is precisely because WE DO control women's bodies - via 'The Pill'. Matt

This was forwarded to me today from someone called, "Don". Don occasionally emails the Greens with information and you can see that the same sort of xenophobia to any non-tribal ideology continues to thrive among the Hawkesbury 'Greens'. There is so much money in population growth. "Don. Please stop emailing us. The Greens do not have a policy of sustainable population and nor should we. It's racist and does nothing to address consumption. It's white people in developed nations consuming too much that's the issue, not population. Sustainable population ideology includes women required to obtain reproductive licences to have children. We should never control women's bodies. Your emails are starting to be of a similar nature to someone who was expelled from the Greens NSW for similar views and incessant communications just like this one. I suggest your views may be better received with the Sustainable Australia Party. Stop emailing the Hawkesbury Greens. David Briggs Convenor, Hawkesbury Greens."

Thanks Maria, you said: "Such type of proposal is already being active in Italy" ... "it is inconclusive, full of unprepared and ignorant people" Yes, and dealing with ignorance is one of the main things that needs to be addressed. Anyone seeking to make decisions for the community needs to make sure they are informed. Thus I envision a revival of public lectures (or equivalent), where informed people discuss, and perhaps debate, important issues of the day. Decision makers, and all citizens can attend these and make better informed decisions. Without removing ignorance we are at the mercy of manipulative politicians etc. This is the situation we have had till now, where various 'sold out' experts advise us to sell public utilities, to accept never-ending growth etc. This will change I imagine once we relocalise communities and decision making, and make everyone responsible for their own communities fate. Certainly mistakes will be made, but those mistakes initially will be a wake-up call for change. In any case, it is unlikely those mistakes will be more damaging than what is happening now. Matt

The early settlers of Melbourne came in many cases from London. They were as greedy as people are today, but they were appalled at the squalid and cramped living conditions of London and were determined not to recreate this. Thus Melbourne was designed with wide streets, vast park lands, and good public transport. In these respects Melbourne was a Utopia. Now all that is being dismantled, and Melbourne is being replaced with the worst of 18th Century 'London'.

Yes, we are being eaten up by market capitalism. Chasing the dollar is survival for those who have to work to pay rent and buy food, but for the power elites who rule us, it has become a kind of addiction. So many very wealthy people are reduced to gambling their wealth for thrills, as if there is nothing else in their lives. The myth of King Midas is so true, yet it appears to have almost no grip in our society. This is a society where the rulers are blind addicts, responding in a kind of reflex arc to any stimulus that looks or sounds like more money. And mass immigration raises the price of everything, and, since they own the resources and assets, they want more and more people.

Not only on the ground, but in the skies, Australia is becoming more hostile to wildlife, and environments. Koalas are being killed by logging, land-clearing for agriculture and housing, road yet it's labelled as merely "habitat loss" or "deforestation" as if they were natural processes. How are these poor flying foxes meant to contend with increasing heat, exacerbated by the heat-island effect and climate change, plus the stress of towers, sky-hooks and cranes? It's an invasion, all driven by heavy population growth that drives demand for towers.

[Transcribed by Sheila Newman from an email] "During birthing season I would not think this is a viable option as pups left in trees while mums forage would be distressed. I would encourage construction work to not impact third trimester of pregnancy and birthing seasons, limiting activities that can be done in this period. Cranes swinging directly over the roost trees should be ceased for one as well as cement mixers operating during fly in times where mums return to the roost and reunite with pups, also pile driving activities were under tight restrictions on one site due to the flying foxes but for whatever reason unknown to me they weren’t under restrictions on the other site also across from the colony."

Wow, what guts! Who would have thought that an Australian state premier would dare to disobey the growth lobby? On his first day in power after a thumping election victory, Mr McGowan wrote to Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to request WA be removed from the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (RSMS). Then in June, the WA Skilled Migration Occupation List was slashed from 178 to just 18 occupations, the least in Australia. Coupled with a Federal Government crackdown on 457 visas, they have made it much more difficult for foreigners to find work and apply for permanent residency in Perth. Read more here: https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/wa-loses-lucrative-student-cash-ng-b88713155z

This article highlights how shockingly abusive our governments are in turning a blind eye the habitat disruption and destruction. The development it OBVIOUSLY causing havok as bats are noctural and need to sleep during the day. If the trees are deeply vibrating and loud noises are happening it would not surprise me if they are suffering. It's like sleep deprivation. Maybe the development needs to start when awaken at twilight? Pile-driving generally is known to cause MANY problems including damage to nearby properties. So if a big development is going up near you, you need to request that before and after photos be taken of your home, so in the event that the pile-driving causes damage that the developers are forced to pay you for the repair bill.

Such type of proposal is already being active in Italy, thanks to the 5 Stars Movement, ( Movimento Cinque Stelle ) and it is inconclusive, full of unprepared and ignorant people, who are unfit to govern. But, given the rest of the Italian Political class,it is not an exceptional case.

The following are excerpts from Orthodox Christmas in Southern Serbia, Oaks and Casual Cruelties (9/1/18) by Dr. Binoy Kampmark | Global Research. As well as this terrible instance of neglect and cruelty to animals, this article is about the threat of ethnic strife and renewed war between Muslims, Serbs and other ethic groups in the Serbia Town of Bujanovac.

The man, gristle and all ... was spotting a particularly agitated dog, udders swollen and heavy, with disdain. The word was that he had hit that same animal the previous day. The memory stung; the dog, barking with helpless fury, wanted a revenge it could never have, a dish it could never savour.

As the barking continued with increasing agitation, a set of strangled yelps were released, followed by a sequence of piercing howls. The man had deployed his stick once more, having gotten off his perch and metamorphosed into a mobile being. No longer still statue, clothes animated and moving with the corporeal form, this mass was now directing his stick with committed viciousness. The dog, beaten, fled again, its cries weaving through the pot-filled streets of Bujanovac like lengthy stretches of pain.

The scene of casual cruelties in the town of Bujanovac alight along the potted road to the village church in neighbouring Rakovac, a village of Serbs in an area also replete with Albanians and the sound of mosques in prayer.

A puppy blackish and brown, its pygmy presence barely a few weeks old has been abandoned, its doomed cries as it vainly struggles in the damp grass defrosted from the night, bruising to the heart. Some pass by without a glance at this blur of colour, the animal struggling to find his bearings, legs giving way; others register a sorrowful regret at not being able to take the animal home. There are priorities, and the dog as pet is less valued as the dog as guard, soldier and functional protector. Animals shelters where these creatures can be saved are not thought of; the grim reaper shall have his feed tonight.

...

I would like to believe that, if I had been a resident of Bujanovic, amidst the cold, lacking food, firewood and fearing a further outbreak of ethnic strife and war that has been endemic to the region since NATO destroyed Yugoslavia in 1999,that I would have still rescued that dog or at least given it some food and and water and taken the time to show it a little kindness.

Yesterday I heard someone talking on radio ABC Melbourne about an outbreak of Dyptheria in Jakarta along with the observation that the disease is more likely to spread due to the dense population in that city. There was not a hint of irony at all in the report or reference to Melbourne being in the process of emulating these levels of density!!

"We feel we are making every effort towards a better, more vibrant, more diverse, society. We are having some successes and some failures but all the while making progress as people speak out." Yes, thanks Barbarella. Such changes are allowed, anything that doesn't threaten the powers of the elite. By allowing these changes, and on such scant evidence, the narrative of 'progress' and 'life getting better' can be continued, as the world burns. Matt

"The ABS figures show a marked increase in net overseas migration arrivals, with the numbers increasing by 11.5 per cent or 56,900 people between July 2016 and July 2017 to reach 552,900 ­arrivals. Over the same period, migration departures rose 1.5 per cent to 307,500. The figures also showed Australia’s total population grew by 388,100 people, or 1.6 per cent, to reach 24.6 million by the end of June this year.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/migration-surges-pushes-population-to-246-million/news-story/5894c42437a3d990c1e3f832ede6f19e

Yes, Olaf, you just need four other people to join you and you can have a meeting and form the parliament. You need to decide on a geographic area, and check that the adult permanent population is less than 1.5 million people. Determining the boundaries of the area might be tricky - but I guess some sort of polygon based around GPS co-ordinates, or alternatively (and better in case of lack of satellite access), land marks, would do. Or you could use existing boundaries for municipal or electoral zones. Just keep a copy of what they are. I guess posting a copy of your first meeting minutes to this site would serve as sufficient notice that the parliament has been formed.

Thanks for your encouragement Sheila, I will see if I can do something to promote it a bit more. Youtube seems one likely possibility.

Also James, consider what has become of the Trotskyist movement under any of its names - and of just about every communist or socialist organisation today. The elites learned their lesson from a near miss and they simply infiltrated the entire movement, with paid organisers who recruit youth and then teach them to go round in circles, until they grow up figuring that revolt is not possible. One thing I don't understand is how the 'cell' concept failed to prevent this. Any ideas?

The following was posted in response to the article Iran protests: Reply to the WSWS response to my critique (7/1/18) | The Saker by Ramin Mazaheri. It is currently awaiting moderation. Whilst the WSWS analysis of the United-States-engineered colour revolution in Iran is clearly flawed and potentially harmful, just over one hundred years ago, after the criminal slaughter in which 18 million died, humanity's best hope of preventing a recurrence of that war lay with others who would have proudly worn the label 'Trotskyist' or 'communist'. Several times before August 1914, socialists prevented the outbreak of war by organising mass protests. In 1905, Swedish socialist Zeth Höglund prevented a war to stop Norway's secession from Sweden. Popular protests organised by socialists prevented the 1911 Agadir crisis triggering a war. Popular protests organised by socialists also prevented the Balkan wars of 1912-13 from becoming a wider European war. Whilst they were unable to prevent war starting in August 1914, they succeeded in November 1917 overthrowing one of the perpetrators of that war, Tsar Nicholas II of Russia. On a number of occasions between November 1918 and November 1923 German communists attempted to emulate the example of the Russian Revolution. Had they succeeded, Hitler would have become a small footnote in history. Instead, humanity paid for their failure with the rise of Hitler, the Jewish Holocaust and the Second World War in which an estimated 60 million died, the theft of Palestine, all the wars started by Israel, the Korean war, the Vietnam War, the Iraq Wars, the invasion of Libya, the war against Syria, etc.

Ah, yes, the AIM network .. cough cough.. :-) (which, sadly, is full of defenders of Soros which presumably means they are financed by him). I'm glad you got some comments. So, there is obviously nothing wrong with your idea. People have to choose to dedicate themselves to it. When I think of the number of organisations I am mixed up with and how hard it is to get anyone to actually look after them. It needs publicity and something for people who don't read, such as a youtube rundown. I looked on youtube and there was nothing like it. Please try to continue to promote this. It is the best idea I have heard.

So, Matthew, have you started a local shadow parliament? Or do you know someone who has? I would join one. It sounds like I could just start one of my own too, by declaring my intention then waiting for applications. Am I right?

Of course, Matthew, we published that, and there were no comments. Did you publish it elsewhere and get comments? So, you are proposing a way for citizens/residents to begin to create their own government. It is an excellent proposal. I tried to encourage people to do this when I suggested complaining to various authorities, including armed forces, of the way massive population growth was overturning our laws. I might go and post your article to a few groups now.

I don't think change can come from the system that benefits from the status quo - the Catholic church is perhaps a good example here - change from outside - from a grass roots movement started by mainly one man who tapped in to popular sentiment and people felt strongly enough about the issue to risk being killed (often by burning).

Thus I feel a similar process will eventually happen now in relation to our current power system - only much worse, as we are now dependent on the system for all our food and other needs, whereas once this power was much more decentralised and democratically distributed.

As an intermediate approach I have proposed the following:

An alternative planning approach

But I think it will be too late soon, if not already. Not too late for change, but too late to avoid massive suffering.

Soros may have done many of these things, but how does one fund the Occupy Wall Street movement? He may have promoted it for his own reasons, but no-one funded it.

Do you have any ideas on how to make change happen? Not being able to make change happen could be described as not knowing what is wrong or what to do about it, too. It all reminds me of the problems ordinary people have in trying to get our Flora and fauna guarantee act enforced; we do not have 'standing'. We do not have 'standing' in our own country to be represented. Citizens do not have standing here. They do not have standing even to say how many members the citizenry here should have. It's like being dictated to by the Catholic Church in the Middle ages.

http://sbynews.blogspot.com.au/2017/01/soros-and-mastercard-join-forces-... "Soros And MasterCard Join Forces To Profit From Immigration Radical currency speculator George Soros is scheming to profit from the illegal immigration crises in the United States and the European Union that he was instrumental in creating. Soros traffics in revolution and human misery. His devious business deals have brought the financial systems of the United Kingdom and Malaysia to their knees. Soros helped finance the 1989 "Velvet Revolution" in then-Czechoslovakia. He acknowledged having orchestrated coups in Croatia, Georgia, Slovakia, and Yugoslavia. Soros hates America. “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States,” he has said. Soros praises Communist China effusively and has said the totalitarian nation—which cuts babies in unauthorized pregnancies from the wombs of their mothers, tortures and kills religious dissenters, and runs over eminent domain resisters with steam-rollers—has “a better-functioning government than the United States.” In the U.S. he has financed the violent, politically destabilizing Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter movements. Now the preeminent funder of border-busting campaigns in the U.S. and overseas has entered into a partnership with credit card giant MasterCard Inc. to create something called Humanity Ventures." More here: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265583/soros-and-mastercard-join-forces-...

See:

Out of the Wreckage

There are links forward and back to causes and solutions. At least he is trying. But reality seems to be that no matter how many books are written on the causes, problems and possible solutions, not much seems to change. The sticking point seems not be knowing what is wrong, or what to do about it, but rather making any change happen.

I appreciate your comment and really would be interested to know what Monbiot suggests, since we can do with any advice. Did he mention the role of war in the international economy? I was once again shocked at the merciless economic immigration ideology coming from the EU President Junker when I received an email citing him in a Breitbart article from November last year. This is a man raised and politically groomed in the unreal environment of Tax-haven Luxembourg. See http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/11/28/eu-president-without-millions-african-migrants-europe-lody/ Junker presides over a body that has gone along with brutal wars in the Middle East and Africa and grotesque austerity measures. He was Luxembourg's representative on the board of Governors of the World Bank. Such people are unable to see past the accumulation of personal fortunes. They will literally push any ideology that keeps that money coming. I see them as as radical and psychopathic, as removed from ordinary people, as Nazi commanders. Excuse me using your comment as a bouncing board for my rave here. I imagine that Monbiot does talk about the problem of very wealthy capitalists, does he?

This is just the latest symptom of a system that is fundamentally unsustainable. And I would argue, almost unrecoverable. Our reliance on fossil fuels is the root of all this (and switching to batteries will not help). Fossil fuels underlie the sprawling separation of work and home, allowing services to be centralised and concentrating us around city centres. Fossil fuels allow our unsustainable food and transportation systems, which will persist even in the face of global warming, as more energy is bought to bear, until a horrible climax is reached. What is the solution? Not something that anyone, or any government is likely to do. That is to move back to localised systems, wean ourselves off fossil fuels. This would require a massive, carefully orchestrated effort by everyone. And much sacrifice by all. An effort akin to that put into preparing and winning a world war would be needed, and is needed. But a rallying of the troops for this war is a very unlikely event. Most people are either oblivious to the problem, or prefer to pretend it doesn't exist. But more and more people will become marginal participants in the system as their poverty increases.

Thanks Sally and I agree with your sentiments, we are being boiled alive as are those who are doing the boiling although they don't know that yet! We desperately need to find a better way, a better political framework, a better economic environment, a way in which we can live in harmony with the land. I'm currently reading George Monbiot's book "Out of the Wreckage", sub-titled "A New Politics for an Age of Crisis", which covers various aspects of the current diktat and explores what can be done by a true democracy in the future. While some of the ideology may seem a bit naive, the objective of the book is meritorious. WE do need to take control of the frying pan or we will literally be boiled alive!!

I am told by those in the field that there is very little money now for helping newcomers to Australia gain competency in English. Where teachers once had the resources to take students on excursions to enrich their experiences and to enable them to put to use practical English skills, now it is something teachers might volunteer in their own time or the students might pay for it as a extra. The government body in Victoria that overseas and employs teachers of English as a second language was denied the opportunity to increase its own funding by teaching self funded immigrants , business immigrants etc. who would have paid for the service. This task was given to private operators , as I understand.

Good to see you on the ball Olaf, but it only gets worse! The Victorian State Government was in the MSM today sprouting their 'achievement/s' "Housing boom fills Victoria's coffers" with the population expected to grow by 2.3% or some 147,000 people in the next 12 months. So far from any stabilisation in the population stakes, the Andrews government intends on ramping it up. Of course as if on cue, the COALition point the finger at the Labs accusing them of sponsoring a ponzi scheme. Don't you just love!!! During the week I read Jane O'Sullivan's paper "The Burden of Durable Asset Acquisition in Growing Populations" and am currently reading Richard Denniss' book "Curing Affluenza" subtitled "How to buy less stuff and save the world'. Unfortunately, Jane's paper will cost you your hard earned, maybe admin could come to the party here?? Both are must reads for anybody wanting to understand the foolhardy madness that surrounds us at the moment.

New South Wales and Victoria have recorded their highest ever levels of net overseas migration (NOM), according to the latest population figures released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS). ABS Demography Director Beidar Cho said:

“Australia’s net overseas migration for the year ending 30 June 2017 was 245,400, an increase of 27 per cent from the previous 12 months (2015-16).

“Net overseas migration in New South Wales and Victoria increased by 31 per cent and 23 per cent respectively. This growth has seen both states surpass their previous recorded high in 2008-09.”

https://scorchinghotnews.com/australias-net-overseas-migration-year-245400-increase-27-per-cent/

Dear Hornsby Councilor,

Declare Hornsby Shire a zero population growth zone now - Geoff Dowsett, Hornsby resident since 1981.

The Turnbull Govternment's abuse of our traditionally humanitarian immigration system involves right wing social engineering of city electorates to achieve Lieberal victory in every seat and to satisfy big business "donors" greed for infinite profit growth. It is a cynical attack on our Aussie culture - the traditional working class, our quality of life, our living standards our public infrastructure, our fragile fauna and flora, our community trees, green belt, our urban heritage houses - the Aussie back yard leading to increasing traffic pollution, chaos and congestion - sky rocketting house prices as population increases – constant disruption of our communities by constant sub division demolition of our heritage houses and gardens – constant construction and building disturbance of our neighbourhoods - increasing population density- loss of heritage gardens wild life and bio diversity - infrastructue melt down, rising prices as demand sky rockets - the list goes on and on. In other words unprecedented corporate welfare - achieved by importing record high numbers of non humanitarian "immigrants" - right wing, upper caste, aspirational, materialistic, conformists, happy to live in Mirvac and Lendlease's ugly monotonous McMansions in the western suburbs and Harry Trigaboof`s high rise battery hen tower block chook pens and eager to vote Lieberal while our rich socially diverse Australians are escaping this invasion of Sydney or suffering the foreign invasion inflicted on them - our poor - traditional working class, our artists, bohemians, old hippies, ferals, true Greenies forced out to create a polluted mono cultural fascist Sydney.

Demand an end to Turnbull's destructive, corrupt immigration ponzi rort now - No more non-humanitarian so-called 'skilled immigration' and family reunions.

Australia's world record high, irresponsible, destructive population growth - now the highest in the OECD

Sustainable Population Australia Page shared a video of Q&A's program of December 11, 2017 [where Turnbull was asked the following question about the very high immigration].

"Could you explain why you are allowing approximately 200,000 people ( It`s actually more like 500,000 net pa ) to immigrate to this country every year & are there any plans to limit this intake or will it go on ad infinitem? What is the purpose of this massive intake which is well above other countries per capita?"

What do you think?

The population of Victoria is expected to hit 10 million people by the 2050s and Melbourne's population will double by 2031, new figures indicate.The Property Council of Victoria said the figures reveal the need to reduce red tape. The council's Asher Judah said property taxes need to be cut to accommodate growth. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/melbourne-double-in-size-as-victor... What they mean by cutting "red tape" is making planning Smarter, by allowing planning to be done by, and for, property developers - excluding the public. Having a headwind to the projected population growth, by residents outraged by the sprawling number of higher density housing, and towers, must somehow be quashed. Melbourne will fail to meet its projected population otherwise. There was never any community consultation regarding our demographics, or immigration rates. It's all assumed to be natural, inevitable, and that our living standards must be compromised and compacted to fit the model. Having the public involved of course will mean objections, if suburbs lose their character and the features that make them liveable and attractive. Or, the public are not able to understand the planning process? What's there to understand if heritage and traditional family houses are grabbed, demolished, and replaced by monotonous high density developments? Most planners and developers only think in terms of the hip pockets, but Prof Michael Buxton is a true planner, one who's actually interested in retaining the integrity of Melbourne.

Simon. please post your email. That is a very generous offer of yours to return to Croatia. If I could return to my ancestral origins and if I thought it would help i would too. Please consider though that as an apparent advocate for Australia's native fauna, it is probably better that you stay!

I hope that it is not too late but I have just sent an e-mail now. I am not sure if the text interests anybody but it is just a combination of modified parts from the above text and general comments that I make about the need to stop expansion of human activities and about myself returning to my country of origin, Croatia, in order to reduce my impact on the native animals of Australia.

If the 1955 commuters walked in a straight line from the top of Collins Street they would have found themselves at what was then Spencer Street Station, but if they came from the top of Collins Street and turned left at Swanston, they would have found themselves facing Flinders Street Station as they would now! Walking in Collins Street doesn't mean they weren't headed for Flinders Street Station! They could also have been headed for Spencer Street but it was more for country and interstate travel.

I do hope those people who were walking doggedly down Collins Street weren't hoping to find Flinders Street Station, they may find Spencer Street which would only add to their misery when they found out that it's now called Southern Cross. Thankyou Steve Cutts for an excellent clip of the Rat Race aka "Happiness". To take it one step further I read in The Age this morning that the Fairfax-Lateral Economics Wellbeing Index is up on last year. So all of you who feel downtrodden, disenchanted and feel that the world is against you - lighten (listen) up! The Wellbeing Index charade goes like this: National Income is up by 4.5% to $1406.8b, human capital is up, environmental depletion, inequality, health and worker satisfaction on the other hand are down. The upshot is that overall that well-being is up by some $1569b which is not what the peasants in the streets have been telling me. Why?? The simple facts are that national income includes business and bank profits (of course) who have been screwing workers, human capital which has been imported in the form of migrants, environmental depletion is estimated to be only $2.5b but is more likely to be $2.5t. Environmental "depletion" which is a nice way of saying degradation should be a hot topic of conversation in our media, but all too often is relegated to the back bench. I engaged in a conversation yesterday, in 'The Conversation' "Drought on the Murray....", on that very topic and most of the comments were on the same wave length. However, what did surprise me was the lack of comments and where were the so-called environmental groups. What I'm trying to get at is that we're confusing well-being with wealth. To my mind well-being is satisfactory welfare, peace of mind, happiness, health, comfort, security, &c. Well-being is immaterial, it's not being prosperous, it's not being the best at anything and everything, it's not being successful, it's not being rich, it's not consumerism, it's not having the best house, car or anything else. Well-being is ordinary people doing ordinary things achieving ordinary outcomes. Well-being is life!!

I posted this comment beneath the YouTube video which was embedded below. Those who read this and who have already read previous comments will find that much of what is in this commen has already been posted above.

The talk appears to have omitted the underlying cause of the conflict between the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK aka 'North Korea') and the United States.

North Korea was devastated in the war of 1950-1953. US Air Force General Curtis Le May perversely boasted how 25% of the population of North Korea was killed by his B29 bombers and how no building more than one storey high was left standing. The DPRK suffered this bombardment because they refused to surrender to the United States and its local proxies who had been imposed upon the southern half of Korea in 1945.

In 1945, the new US President Harry S. Truman turned on the Soviet Union and many of the United States' other war-time allies including the ELAS partisans in Greece, the communist partisans in Italy, the Viet Minh in Vietnam, the Chinese communists and the DPRK in Korea.

In the southern half of Korea the United States' occupation forces put into power a government largely composed of Koreans who had collaborated with the Japanese occupiers. This government was named the "Republic of Korea" (ROK aka 'South Korea'). The US Army and its local ROK puppets savagely repressed supporters of the DPRK in the south and DPRK supporters resisted this repression. This civil war became a conventional war on 25 June 1950. Had the United States and its allies not massively increased the size of their intervention, the army of the DPRK could have easily beaten the army of the hated ROK. The subsequent invasion of the North was stopped, but at a terrible cost to the DPRK and to its Chinese allies. Peace was never signed in 1953. Officially that war continues. The DPRK leaders know that any one of the annual joint military exercises of the US and ROK, which resemble practice invasions of the North, could easily turn into a real invasion should the US be able to manufacture a pretext. Accordngly, the DPRK has repeatedly asked at the United Nations that these exercises cease.

THe DPRK leadres saw that they had no choice but to create weapons which could deter the United States should it ever again attempt to do what it failed to do in 1953.

Kim Jong-Un shamed Trump (Ruslan Ostako)

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This little animation reminds me of 5.00pm Collins Street by John Brack painted in 1955 but there is an essential difference. Brack's painting shows people walking doggedly down Collins Street all facing the same direction, presumably on their way to Flinders Street Station. The figures overlap one another so they are massed together The animation shows rats (people) in a much more daunting mass being swept along. The difference is the amount of control the rats (people) seem to have over their situation. Brack was in a way criticising the people in his picture for choosing this life. He even criticised himself decades later for his own arrogance. The author of the animation seems to show a situation of despair that has gone beyond choice and beyond rectifying.

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